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What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

Roderick Pommie

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Roderick Pommie » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:55:30

I'm not really that big into racing sims but enjoy them time to time, meaning
I never have the desire to actually get in the garage and tweak my car.

My favorites are Sportscar GT & GPL.  I currently use a handheld wheel throttle
combo made by Interact I believe.

I've seen the TM Nascar Pro USB on Computer Geeks for around $20.  Or should
I perhaps get a Logitech force feedback?  Does FFB make that big of a
difference?

I run WinXP

Roderick

Andre Warrin

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Andre Warrin » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:17:26

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:55:30 GMT, "Roderick Pommier"


>I've seen the TM Nascar Pro USB on Computer Geeks for around $20.  Or should
>I perhaps get a Logitech force feedback?  Does FFB make that big of a
>difference?

Take a look here:
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/2001wheelroundup/

Andre

Olly Greenfiel

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Olly Greenfiel » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 00:48:44

I love my Logitech ForceFeedback wheel. I had a Thrustmaster T2 non FF wheel
for years and liked it also. I am not any faster with the Forcefeedback
wheel, but the experience of driving is greatly enhanced and well worth the
money. Also, you can use this wheel with a Playstation 2, which is awesome
for playing Gran Tourismo 3.

SimRace

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by SimRace » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 01:50:37


Yes, FF makes a huge difference, it makes most sims undrivable, LOL. In
other words, FF is a personal preference. I have used a FF wheel in the past
for about 9 months (with N3-first part of N4) and moved back to a non FF
wheel. To me FF effects, as of yet, feel to phoney and make the sims less
accurate to me.

There will be people on the other side of the fence, probably more
staunchly, but I do ok with my non FF wheel. I've won my share of pickup
races, league races and a league championship last fall without FF. So I
simply contend it is up to the driver and FF is NOT the best thing for
everyone as a lot of folks will tell ya. I say try both if you can and
decide for yourself.

I'd recommend a wheel (non FF of course :) )  but your subject was casual
wheels. As much as I paid for mine, I don't think the wife would let me call
it 'casual', hehe.

Good Luck...and definetly ditch the V3 if thats the Interact wheel you
have..

buzz

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by buzz » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 07:57:57


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Completely agree with that ' cause had--have--the same wheels but can't get
the logitech to have any FF with GPL
send me your settings

Buzz
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jason moy

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by jason moy » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:21:13


> I'm not really that big into racing sims but enjoy them time to time, meaning
> I never have the desire to actually get in the garage and tweak my car.

The best quality for a low price is far and away the Microsoft
Sidewinder Precision Pro.  You should be able to get one for $40-60,
they're built like a tank, and have the best pedals I've used, period.
 I've been using mine daily for over a year now and the potentiometers
are still spot-on accurate.  Of the sub-$100 wheels, it's the only one
I've found that is accurate enough to be drivable with 100% linearity
in GPL (I've owned an Interact V3, Saitek R100, and Logitech Wingman,
which were all pure and utter crap).  Also, you get the benefits of 8
programmable buttons and split-axis pedals.  Microsoft could charge
$150 for it and it will still be completely worth the money, imho.

Is that the RC-car style control?  I wish they had made a Dreamcast
controller like that for F355 and CART Flag-to-Flag...

Jason

Christopher J. Sypa

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Christopher J. Sypa » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:07:04




>> I'm not really that big into racing sims but enjoy them time to time, meaning
>> I never have the desire to actually get in the garage and tweak my car.

>The best quality for a low price is far and away the Microsoft
>Sidewinder Precision Pro.  You should be able to get one for $40-60,
>they're built like a tank, and have the best pedals I've used, period.

I'll agree with the recommendation.  I don't play sims all that much, so I
don't really need the FF or other high quality features.  It's just a simple
wheel that's sturdy and accurate.  When I was deciding to get it, I was worried
aobut two things: the "notch" in the center rest position, and the small
shifting paddles (or rather buttons).  I ended up getting used to the notch
rather quickly.  The shifting buttons ended up being in just the right position
for my fingers.  It feels much better on my desk at home than it did on the
display where I bought it.

The first wheel I got was a R100.  It didn't even take a year for it to get
loose and inaccurate.  In retrospect, it did prove to me that a wheel is a much
needed device for racing and was a good first step.  Nowadays, with the
Sidewinder's price so low I'd recommend it as a first step instead.


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ayemdeefanREM..

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by ayemdeefanREM.. » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:52:49

On 22 Feb 2002 23:07:04 -0600, Christopher J. Sypal


>>The best quality for a low price is far and away the Microsoft
>>Sidewinder Precision Pro.  You should be able to get one for $40-60,
>>they're built like a tank, and have the best pedals I've used, period.

>I'll agree with the recommendation.  I don't play sims all that much, so I
>don't really need the FF or other high quality features.  It's just a simple
>wheel that's sturdy and accurate.  When I was deciding to get it, I was worried
>aobut two things: the "notch" in the center rest position, and the small
>shifting paddles (or rather buttons).  I ended up getting used to the notch
>rather quickly.  The shifting buttons ended up being in just the right position
>for my fingers.  It feels much better on my desk at home than it did on the
>display where I bought it.

The clamping system on the MS wheels are the best I've seen.  I can
pull it in an out in like a 5 secs.  Takes very little room too.  Mine
is over a year old and still works.  The pedals have broken though but
I got AL pedals to replace them.  
istof

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by istof » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 18:42:55

*laughs*

i double clicked this thread only to see if DaveHenrie had a funny
comment based on the subject.

oh well.

Regards all,
istoff

Dave Henri

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:06:30


   I try to avoid recomending paticular hardware as so much of that is
subjective.  What I like may be junk to others.  I will recomend LEVELS of
hardware, i.e. how fast a cpu or vid card but rarely do I get into saying...
  "Gee this here Mario Andretti joystick thingy I got works just fine for
me..."
 Thanks for caring tho...  :)
dave henrie

Glen E. Pries

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Glen E. Pries » Sun, 03 Mar 2002 12:29:16

The earlier, all red Wingman Formula Force is a fabulous wheel, and yes, force
feedback in Grand Prix Legends is AWESOME!   Glen Priest

> I'm not really that big into racing sims but enjoy them time to time, meaning
> I never have the desire to actually get in the garage and tweak my car.

> My favorites are Sportscar GT & GPL.  I currently use a handheld wheel throttle
> combo made by Interact I believe.

> I've seen the TM Nascar Pro USB on Computer Geeks for around $20.  Or should
> I perhaps get a Logitech force feedback?  Does FFB make that big of a
> difference?

> I run WinXP

> Roderick

Glen E. Pries

What's the best "Casual" Wheel?

by Glen E. Pries » Sun, 03 Mar 2002 12:44:44

I am old, and I drove power steering  equipped cars in the early '50's, and they
had ZIP road feel, constant and too light turning resistance and poor accuracy;
in short, just what you get in today's non force-feedback sim wheels1  It is
beyond me how someone would drive "Grand Prix Legends" with a non-force
feedback,and then try it WITH force feedback and feel the non FF was better and
felt more "real".  I'm well aware that one can spend from $1200 skyward  for a
non-FF wheel, and while it might be well constructed and tight, if it has no
road-feel, what is the point?   Glen Priest



> > I'm not really that big into racing sims but enjoy them time to time,
> meaning
> > I never have the desire to actually get in the garage and tweak my car.

> > My favorites are Sportscar GT & GPL.  I currently use a handheld wheel
> throttle
> > combo made by Interact I believe.

> > I've seen the TM Nascar Pro USB on Computer Geeks for around $20.  Or
> should
> > I perhaps get a Logitech force feedback?  Does FFB make that big of a
> > difference?

> > I run WinXP

> > Roderick

> Yes, FF makes a huge difference, it makes most sims undrivable, LOL. In
> other words, FF is a personal preference. I have used a FF wheel in the past
> for about 9 months (with N3-first part of N4) and moved back to a non FF
> wheel. To me FF effects, as of yet, feel to phoney and make the sims less
> accurate to me.

> There will be people on the other side of the fence, probably more
> staunchly, but I do ok with my non FF wheel. I've won my share of pickup
> races, league races and a league championship last fall without FF. So I
> simply contend it is up to the driver and FF is NOT the best thing for
> everyone as a lot of folks will tell ya. I say try both if you can and
> decide for yourself.

> I'd recommend a wheel (non FF of course :) )  but your subject was casual
> wheels. As much as I paid for mine, I don't think the wife would let me call
> it 'casual', hehe.

> Good Luck...and definetly ditch the V3 if thats the Interact wheel you
> have..


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