I second that one!!!!
I second that one!!!!
1) Official NASCAR racing series, with prizes, purse, NASCAR officials and
official recognition from NASCAR. Remember the first "unofficial" season
had more than 30000$ in prizes, with trips to Daytona for the finalists,
etc... It was only the unofficial season.
2) Real dedicated servers. Im not talking about the P3 that people will give
as Dedicaded servers with the GPL 1.1patch. Im talking about expensive,
250000$+ SUN servers.
3) A GUi made on purpose for the NROS, including statistics, rankings,
profiles, mail, etc..
4) Less warping due to the dedicated servers and prediction code. Compared
the warping from the normal N2(or NR99) multiplayer to the NROS with
24drivers.
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Personally don't care. :) Now, if it was CART or FIA...well, then we have a
different matter. Heck even if it was the PSC. :)
Dedciated servers are a plus definetely. However, just because a server
costs a lot doesn't make it the best server. You are obviously going to
need more powerful servers with lots of ram, etc to handle MULTIPLE races on
the same server. However, if you are simply running ONE race at a time on a
dedicated server the server won't be the problem, it will be the connection
quality of the host. Nonetheless, dedicated servers are a plus.
Purpose made for NROS? Hahaha..ok. GSB and VROC are more purpose made. :)
Do you REALLY need a service to provide your email if you have an ISP?
Didn't think so. Profiles? Use webpages geesh....rankings? Ok, got
somewhat of a point there. :)
Again, its more the connection quality and bandwidth as opposed to the
"dedicated" server. It helps..and a big enough server will allow you to
host multiple races per machine. Prediction code? GPL should have it, but
only the guys at Papy could say for certain.
How surprising to see you reply ;-P Hehe nice points first of all. You may
think that the NROS being an official division of NASCAR is nothing, but
personally it's the first step into making this a sport.
I said the cost to make people understand that real servers aren't cheap.
For 250K it's not even a excellent server. But yes dedicated servers are a
big plus. Im not saying the N3 version of VROC (or how it will be) will
suck, but the alternative (NROS) has still alot of advantages.
I know and agree. Spyboy impressed me with the inclusion of the IRC
functions, but Im talking about N3 not GPL :) I said nowhere about TEN
here remember, Im talking about the NROS. Who knows what will it be for N3
? ;)
The problem is that Im not sure there is a prediction code as good as the
NROS for GPL. I guess it's a limitation of the game engine. I mean take a
simple dot who can go up and down. Prediction code is easy.. it goes up,
down or stays at the same place. But the more you add depth in a sim, the
more the prediction code becomes difficult to recreate. Best example is to
look at the GPL cars on ovals. You will see that the prediction code isn't
as good as on the NROS, but combine both elements from N2 and GPL... N3 will
be great on a stable multiplayer system 8)
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-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Does anyone know the answers to my questions? I suspect not since
this has degraded into a diatribe about NROS... I'm sorry but I don't
give a rats ass about NROS. I would like to know if the digital FF
wheels will work or be supported in N3 though :-)
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I used Force Telekinesis to put my thoughts into your mind so you could
write them :)
I fully agree with your post, as even if Im a NROS Guide I do understand
that the normal TCP/IP racing that GPL and N3 will offer is a great
alternative. Be also sure Greg that FF wheels will work with N3. Maybe not
using Force Feedback, but they will work !
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-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
I don't disagree there. I just am unsure how much support NASCAR is
actually giving it. I'd exepct that an official division of NASCAR would be
held to the same standards as every other division which means licensing,
etc. I guess thats what I expected and that didn't come to fruitation.
True, the NROS, IF they have N3 on it, does have some advantages (at least
theoretically). For 250K it better be a damn excellent server or else Sun
screwed them. ;)
True, true. IF NROS is not on TEN when N3 comes about then yeah, it will be
a dedicated front end with hopefully less than 3 connections as per TEN and
not a 640x480 form :)
Dunno, I couldn't say..only people that can say how good or not good the
prediction code is is the guys who wrote it. :)
I'd still rather see CART2000/3/2/whatever. ;)
So then YOU'RE responsible for that dream last night. Well done! I'd
always fancied Cindy Crawford.
Exactly; TCP/IP for more informal racing, and commercial services like
NROS that offer a step up, with the promise of fame and fortune on
offer to the truly quick. The more the merrier!
Steve B.
P.S. Give Cindy a rest tonight. I've been pooped all day! :-)
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100% Agree with you here. TCP/IP is a blast. If you feel your doing good
and want to "elevate" your racing level, you will be able to go in the
Ok... tonight is Laetitia Casta ;-)
(Hmm actually no I changed my mind. Laetitia is mine ;-D ).
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-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Im unsure also. The people at the top are aware of everything happening on
the NROS. The problems related to boots, and general fiability problems. I
speculated that they are probably waiting for N3 to start their marketing
push. Hopefully.
Hehe but they still would have those darn SCU13 errors. Argh I hate that on
TEN :)
But on another way... the NROS on TEN with N3 doesn't nessecary mean it will
be via the Internet. Or that if the NROS not on TEN appears, it could still
be on the Internet.
I still like the tiny TEN window. Don't ask me but I like it.. I can put it
on a corner (1200x1024res here) and do other things. IMHO for good
multitasking small windows are nessecary.
Agree. I only speculated from the things I know. Prediction code is still
the way to go on the Internet IMHO. Until we are all on 200kbps+
connections.
I still have a blast with Icr2. I would probably race more with CART 2000
than any Papy product if it was true.
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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."