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1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

MeatWate

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by MeatWate » Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Two things:

1- you sure did a great job.
2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!!


>1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.



Michael G. Lower

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by Michael G. Lower » Tue, 01 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Mea***er,
    Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy
person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you
reply by telling them not to do it again.  What's wrong with
posting binaries?

Michael Lowery


> Two things:

> 1- you sure did a great job.
> 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!!


> >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.



MeatWate

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by MeatWate » Tue, 01 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Hey Michael,

If people started posting files whenever they thought others should
see/have/use/whatever them it'd take us a whole lotta time to download new
messages. While I wouldn't really care too much (I have an ISDN line),
there's many others who have slow modems they use just for sending and
receiving emails and for newsgroups. It is therefore an (unwritten?) law
that binaries shouldn't go here.

A common way to share files is to send them directly ON REQUEST. So Nicklaus
could have written "hey folks, got a great pic of my new '68 carset. Drop me
a line and I'll send it to you".

Or upload the file(s) on one of the many servers that offer free webspace
(like http://www.racesimcentral.net/, 11MB!!!)

As you can see there's better ways to spread binaries than in a newsgroup.

By the way, there's also special newsgroups for binaries.

Just imagine what would happen if someone asked for a patch that's size is
about 9MB?? And, at the same time someone else asked for a patch that's 2MB,
another one posted some .bmp's of his latest visit to the "Ring"...believe
me, some guys out there would spend hours just to download the latest
messages.

But thanks for your comment. And it wasn't really off topic or ignorant...

Mea***er


CombatWomba

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by CombatWomba » Tue, 01 Dec 1998 04:00:00

reason 1 binaries are bad on non-binary ng.
Viruses, plain and simple
reason 2 binaries are bad on non-binary ng.
Many people in Europe, as well as other places i'm sure, must pay for local
calls per minute.  They will then download an entire NG and read it offline.
Downloading a 2meg binary is the last thing someone with a huge phone bill
and slow connection wants.

>Mea***er,
>    Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy
>person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you
>reply by telling them not to do it again.  What's wrong with
>posting binaries?

>Michael Lowery


>> Two things:

>> 1- you sure did a great job.
>> 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!!


>> >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.



Tony Demetr

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by Tony Demetr » Tue, 01 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Another answer to your question would be that some people are really ***
about somethings. ;-p

Tony (donning flame retardant underwear)


>Mea***er,
>    Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy
>person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you
>reply by telling them not to do it again.  What's wrong with
>posting binaries?

>Michael Lowery


>> Two things:

>> 1- you sure did a great job.
>> 2- don't put any f* binaries here!!!!!!!!


>> >1968 patch now available at finer websites worldwide.



Zonk

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by Zonk » Wed, 02 Dec 1998 04:00:00


>reason 1 binaries are bad on non-binary ng.
>Viruses, plain and simple
>reason 2 binaries are bad on non-binary ng.
>Many people in Europe, as well as other places i'm sure, must pay for local
>calls per minute.  They will then download an entire NG and read it offline.
>Downloading a 2meg binary is the last thing someone with a huge phone bill
>and slow connection wants.

>>Mea***er,
>>    Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy
>>person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you
>>reply by telling them not to do it again.  What's wrong with
>>posting binaries?

Actually, the last posts are myth's. Any decent newsreader, will download
headers only. granted, someone using an offline reader is going to be
extremely pissed.....

But the real problem is the news server's themselves. Many newsadmin's refuse
to carry the load of any binary groups on their server, and will take the
extreme step of moving non-binary groups with high binary content.

Besides, as pointed out, encoding binaries increases their size hughly- and is
the most inefficent way to send and recieve files 8)

Besides, i hope no one here would send anyone a file attachement (especially a
large one) without first checking it is o.k..... so why would you do the same
on a newsgroup?

Z.

Michael E. Carve

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by Michael E. Carve » Wed, 02 Dec 1998 04:00:00


% Mea***er,
%     Please excuse my ignorance (I'm not the most computer-savvy
% person around), but every time someone posts a binary, you
% reply by telling them not to do it again.  What's wrong with
% posting binaries?

There have been many reasons posted in this thread as to why not to post
binaries to discussion groups.  Basically, this is how Usenet works...
The following is from the Introductory FAQ for this newsgroup:

  o Please do not post large binary files like GIFs, JPEGs, MPEGs or WAVs
    to rec.autos.simulators.  They will fill the Usenet disk partitions at
    some sites. Some people cannot select which articles they want before
    they have to download them. Post them to alt.binaries.simulators.autos
    newsgroup with a short post to rec.autos.simulators to notify anyone
    who is interested.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

MeatWate

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by MeatWate » Wed, 02 Dec 1998 04:00:00

That says about all. Now let's not waste any more time with this topic.

Michael E. Carver schrieb in Nachricht ...

>The following is from the Introductory FAQ for this newsgroup:

>  o Please do not post large binary files like GIFs, JPEGs, MPEGs or WAVs
>    to rec.autos.simulators.  They will fill the Usenet disk partitions at
>    some sites. Some people cannot select which articles they want before
>    they have to download them. Post them to alt.binaries.simulators.autos
>    newsgroup with a short post to rec.autos.simulators to notify anyone
>    who is interested.

>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Wolfgang Prei

1968 Grand Prix Season for GPL--a montage of images - 1968.jpg (1/1)

by Wolfgang Prei » Wed, 02 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Michael, there are newsgroups for binaries and newsgroups that are not
supposed to have binaries in them. There are (at least) two good
reasons for this:

1. Before you see any Usenet posting, it has been copied from the
poster's server to countless other news servers around the world,
including the one you're using. News servers are computers with very
large hard disks - but the disk space is not unlimited.

The owner of the news server has to pay for the hardware as well as
the bits and bytes transmitted though the Internet, and therefore has
a right to be able to say: "I don't want binaries on my server.
Binaries are huge and should not be transmitted via Usenet. I will not
carry any binaries on my server."

It is easy *not* to carry specialized binaries newsgroups - it is much
harder to spot and eliminate binary postings in discussion newsgroups.
Yet, if for example your university somehow finds out that a
discussion group contains a lot of binaries, they might decide not to
carry that group anymore.

2. Some people (including myself) pay indecent amounts of money to a
telecommuncations monopolist for each minute they're connected to the
net. Other people pay by the byte. In each case, it's not nice to be
forced to download a longer file and pay for it without being asked.

The proper way would be to post the binary in question to a binary
newsgroup, or, preferably, put it on a website and post a pointer
here.

--
Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.



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