rec.autos.simulators

> >Astounding that he think that sim is realistic, but so says Mark Blundell.
> >Are we simracers nuts, or is the answer that since the professional
> >openwheeldrivers are so enormously better than most of us, they are able
> >to get some sense out of the sims we feel undrivable.

> >Will this mean GPL is arcade ? :)

> Maybe you should ctart a new thread with that title ..

> David G Fisher

> > From an article on www.seventgear.com about the champcar-rookies this
year
> > Alexandre Tagliani from the Players-Forsythe Team told about his
> simracing:

> > >He plays the racing simulations Gran Turismo 2 and Precision
Simulation
> > >with a Microsoft steering wheel with feedback. In fact he was playing
> when
> > >he talked to us. He says the simulations are realistic in terms of how
> the
> > >car performs, but "you don't have the feeling under your butt" of what
> the
> > >car is doing. You can't feel what's going on as much as see it.

> > I take Precision Simulation is supposed to be CART Precision Racing.

> > Astounding that he think that sim is realistic, but so says Mark
Blundell.
> > Are we simracers nuts, or is the answer that since the professional
> > openwheeldrivers are so enormously better than most of us, they are
able
> > to get some sense out of the sims we feel undrivable.

> > Will this mean GPL is arcade ? :)

> > CART should pay Papy to make a GPL-engined CART sim so their drivers
could
> > practice more (read Shig :)

> > Didn't Juan Montoya also use C:PR to learn the tracks ? The problem is
> > probably that it is the best CART sim out, but far from good enough.

> > Disclaimer: I had some great moments with C:PR after the release, but I
> > stopped playing it after the release of GPL. After I bought my MSFF
wheel
> > i wasn't able to drive C:PR at all, couldn't get the car to go where I
> wanted
> > to :(

> > --
> > Olav K. Malmin
> > remove spam when replying

> Astounding that he think that sim is realistic, but so says Mark Blundell.
> Are we simracers nuts, or is the answer that since the professional
> openwheeldrivers are so enormously better than most of us, they are able
> to get some sense out of the sims we feel undrivable.

> > Astounding that he think that sim is realistic, but so says Mark Blundell.
> > Are we simracers nuts, or is the answer that since the professional
> > openwheeldrivers are so enormously better than most of us, they are able
> > to get some sense out of the sims we feel undrivable.

> As I did not frequent RAS at the time I don't know which critisisms were
> leveled at it here. I have always found C:PR both challenging and enjoyable
> from a driving point of view. My PC didn't have the *ooomph* to run it
> properly at the time and I had no FF-wheel, but other than the poor
> framerate and the terrible AI I had no bones with it. I have it on my "to be
> revisited"-list.

> > Will this mean GPL is arcade ? :)

> If you're willing to exploit the approximations in the model and set up your
> car specifically for the purpose, an arcade driving style can be very
> successfull in GPL. So in a way it is. (I'm bullet proof <g>)

>"CPR was a great sim because
>real drivers think so "

>C'mon head!

>(joke)

>--DK

>> If people on this newsgroup start saying that CPR was a great sim because
>> real drivers think so (what would they know?), my head will explode.

>> David G Fisher

> > Astounding that he think that sim is realistic, but so says Mark
Blundell.
> > Are we simracers nuts, or is the answer that since the professional
> > openwheeldrivers are so enormously better than most of us, they are able
> > to get some sense out of the sims we feel undrivable.

> As I did not frequent RAS at the time I don't know which critisisms were
> leveled at it here. I have always found C:PR both challenging and
enjoyable
> from a driving point of view. My PC didn't have the *ooomph* to run it
> properly at the time and I had no FF-wheel, but other than the poor
> framerate and the terrible AI I had no bones with it. I have it on my "to
be
> revisited"-list.

> > Will this mean GPL is arcade ? :)

> If you're willing to exploit the approximations in the model and set up
your
> car specifically for the purpose, an arcade driving style can be very
> successfull in GPL. So in a way it is. (I'm bullet proof <g>)

> > CART should pay Papy to make a GPL-engined CART sim so their drivers
could
> > practice more (read Shig :)

> I'd be very happy for anyone to have a decent swing at it. As long as they
> attempted a true sim.

> > Didn't Juan Montoya also use C:PR to learn the tracks ? The problem is
> > probably that it is the best CART sim out, but far from good enough.

> Topographical accuracy of the tracks is supposed to be good. So you can
use
> it for a virtual track walk and have a feel of you might want to be doing
> when you drive it in the real car. I do remember reading something to that
> effect, yes.

> > Disclaimer: I had some great moments with C:PR after the release, but I
> > stopped playing it after the release of GPL. After I bought my MSFF
wheel
> > i wasn't able to drive C:PR at all, couldn't get the car to go where I
> wanted
> > to :(

> C:PR did have those illusive moment of strong satisfaction when you nailed
a
> turn absolutely spot on.

> Jan.
> =---