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F1RS: 1998 carset questions

Greg Cisk

F1RS: 1998 carset questions

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 24 May 1998 04:00:00

The 1998 carsets are very cool. However a 1998 Mclaren
does not start in the rear of the pack and suck the whole race.
(That should be Alesi's job :-) While I have read allot about this
lately it is possible I missed some performance adjustments
for the 1998 carsets. And even properly moving the drivers to
the proper teams. Any help is appreciated.

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David Mast

F1RS: 1998 carset questions

by David Mast » Sun, 24 May 1998 04:00:00


>The 1998 carsets are very cool. However a 1998 Mclaren
>does not start in the rear of the pack and suck the whole race.
>(That should be Alesi's job :-) While I have read allot about this
>lately it is possible I missed some performance adjustments
>for the 1998 carsets. And even properly moving the drivers to
>the proper teams. Any help is appreciated.

I just dl'd the '98 carsets and experienced the same.  I'm sure the authors
and others who edit the files can give you a more definitive answer.  Here's
what I surmise:

The carsets just change the team/driver power factor.  There is apparently
another driver factor (ie, why Alesi kicks Berger butt, ditto for Schumacher
vs Irvine) that I haven't seen any of the editors access.  More important, I
think if you aren't in game mode (ie, track downloaded), the times are
influenced primarily by the actual '96 event.  That is, I'm willing to bet
there is something in F1RS that "fakes" these results.  So, I think your best
bet is to race the events in realtime, followed by at least dl'ing the track
and running the quals in accelerated mode.

I've noted in the past that there are a number of AI modes in F1RS.  I'm not
referring to the amateur/pro, but rather to the times a driver will post
depending on whether you just skip by that event (practice, quals, warmup),
whether you are in accelerated mode (in pit, or just watching a race after you
retired), or whether you are actually in real time (in pit, or on track).  I
believe that if you just skip past practice/quals/whatever, the times are
influenced by what transpired in the actual '96 race.  Check the two.  I think
you'll find that the top three are often the same, the top 7 or so will be
likewise, with the occasional switching of a couple.  The times will be
mediocre.  If you instead enter that event (dl the track), the times and order
are more dependent on the car power settings (and hypothesized "driver
rating").  If you instead are in real-time, the times are even faster by a
second or more.

Even more modes?  If you run a car in demonstration mode, you'll see times
that get incrementally better (a second or so) when you switch from amateur to
pro to expert.  But the fastest time here doesn't compare to the times the
expert AI cars will turn in actual real-time races.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed same or has another explanation.

Sorry for the long-winded response.

Rafael Medeiro

F1RS: 1998 carset questions

by Rafael Medeiro » Sun, 24 May 1998 04:00:00

Hi ,
You must use the *.F1 file provided with mosts 1998 carsets and apply it on


> The 1998 carsets are very cool. However a 1998 Mclaren
> does not start in the rear of the pack and suck the whole race.
> (That should be Alesi's job :-) While I have read allot about this
> lately it is possible I missed some performance adjustments
> for the 1998 carsets. And even properly moving the drivers to
> the proper teams. Any help is appreciated.

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Martin's granberg power editor.In most of these files ,Maclaren has the
greatest engine power,but if you want to see maclaren ahead of the
pack,you'll have to set the cars to "identical" instead of "realistic"which
reproduces the 96 season.

> The 1998 carsets are very cool. However a 1998 Mclaren
> does not start in the rear of the pack and suck the whole race.
> (That should be Alesi's job :-) While I have read allot about this
> lately it is possible I missed some performance adjustments
> for the 1998 carsets. And even properly moving the drivers to
> the proper teams. Any help is appreciated.

> --
> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.



Greg Cisk

F1RS: 1998 carset questions

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 25 May 1998 04:00:00


>Hi ,
>You must use the *.F1 file provided with mosts 1998 carsets and apply it on
>Martin's granberg power editor.In most of these files ,Maclaren has the
>greatest engine power,but if you want to see maclaren ahead of the
>pack,you'll have to set the cars to "identical" instead of "realistic"which
>reproduces the 96 season.

Ah ha! That is what I was looking for. Thank you!

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Greg Cisk

F1RS: 1998 carset questions

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 26 May 1998 04:00:00


>>Martin's granberg power editor.In most of these files ,Maclaren has the
>greatest engine power,but if you want to see maclaren ahead of the
>pack,you'll have to set the cars to "identical" instead of "realistic"which
>reproduces the 96 season.

Yes I finally got my ***together and got all this going. But who was the
smart-ass who allowed jaques v. to qualify 3rd at Monaco? I guess I'll
be looking to tweak the world champion to appropriate values :-)
The Mclarens took the front row which is cool And Alesi is
a back marker, as it should be :-)

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David Mast

F1RS: 1998 carset questions

by David Mast » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00



>>>Martin's granberg power editor.In most of these files ,Maclaren has the
>>greatest engine power,but if you want to see maclaren ahead of the
>>pack,you'll have to set the cars to "identical" instead of "realistic"which
>>reproduces the 96 season.
>Yes I finally got my ***together and got all this going.

Hmmm.  I ran with "realistic" and I had Hakkinen, Villeneuve, Coulthard as
1,2,3 in qualifying with Tamasiu's '98 carset (using Granberg's F1RSRAYS,
etc).  But this was only when I actually entered the qualifying (ie loaded the
track, past the country music, etc).  Hakkinen won the race, but not by as
much as one would expect given the power advantage set by the above carset.

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