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Apex

JMB Duker

Apex

by JMB Duker » Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Hi,

I have seen the term "APEX" a few times, but I don't know exactly what it
means.
Can someone explain it to me?
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J.M.B. Dukers

"Experiments should be reproducable, they should all fail in the same
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Eindhoven University of Technology
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Laboratory of Inorganic Chemistry
Subgroup Electrocatalysis


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Paul Sander

Apex

by Paul Sander » Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Apex is the point in a turn where you are no longer entering the turn, now
you are exiting the turn.

-Paul

On Tuesday, June 25, 1996, JMB Dukers wrote...
> Hi,

> I have seen the term "APEX" a few times, but I don't know exactly what
it
> means.
> Can someone explain it to me?
> --
> ======================================================================
> J.M.B. Dukers

> "Experiments should be reproducable, they should all fail in the same
> way."

> Eindhoven University of Technology
> Faculty of Chemical Engineering
> Laboratory of Inorganic Chemistry
> Subgroup Electrocatalysis


> =======================================================================

Drbob

Apex

by Drbob » Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Not quite true.  In my Showroom Stock cars (underpowered) I usually braked
for the corner, turned in and immediately went to full throttle for
maximum exit speed.  On ovals in NASCAR you may be at constant throttle
before, through, and after the apex and only start "powering out" well
after the apex.

The apex is generally the place where you are closest to the inside edge
of the track.  Your first approximation is that the apex is at the center
of the corner, although high powered cars frequently use a "late apex"
past the center and an increasing radius corner calls for an "early apex".
 Where you get the power on is, as illustrated above, quite variable.

                                        bob

MNesevit

Apex

by MNesevit » Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:00:00

I thought the "APEX" was the point of the turn that you hit when you are
no longer entering the turn.. But exiting the turn..That is the APEX....
Ever heard of "THE TAINT" ???  Same thing !!!.!!:))
Mick

GAUNTL

Apex

by GAUNTL » Thu, 27 Jun 1996 04:00:00

The apex of a turn is the point at which you are at the slowest speed
in the corner. It is the point where u stop slowing down and start
powering out of a turn. It is also the point where u should be closest
to the "inside of the track".

GAUNTLET

Yves Smolder

Apex

by Yves Smolder » Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Oh! I though an Apex was the place where you get frustrated because
you're going 4 mph too slow and your car still is drifting outward...
:-)

Greets,

Tonio

David Spark

Apex

by David Spark » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00


>Apex means the highest point.  In a turn of 180 degreees it would be
>the point at 90 degrees. or the center point of any curve.

>I hope this is the apex you are talking about.
>Tim

Not always. If the corner is an increasing radius, the apex may be earlier
than the center of the corner. If it's a decreasing radius, it will be
later. It's the point where you are closest to the inside of the corner and
usually the point where you begin increasing throttle. Some corners may
even have double apexes, i.e. you treat them like two separate corners.

Dave "davids" Sparks
Sequoia Motorsports

Andy Jacks

Apex

by Andy Jacks » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

: The apex of a turn is the point at which you are at the slowest speed
: in the corner. It is the point where u stop slowing down and start
: powering out of a turn. It is also the point where u should be closest
: to the "inside of the track".

This may just be a difference of understanding, but I wasn't aware that
APEX had any relation to speed.  In very rough terms its the point at which
you clip the kerb on the inside of the corner.  But for every corner there
is a GEOMETIC "apex" (the center of the corner), though this may have no
direct relation to the RACING apex due to things like camber etc.  Also,
drivers take different lines through corners, so their own individual apex
may be at different point. some drivers may be going slowest BEFORE they
start the turn in, and then POWER through to the apex and out the
other side.  All a bit vague, but basically where you clip the kerb on
the INSIDE of the turn.  I think ... :-)

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Tim Dal

Apex

by Tim Dal » Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:00:00



>>Apex means the highest point.  In a turn of 180 degreees it would be
>>the point at 90 degrees. or the center point of any curve.

>>I hope this is the apex you are talking about.
>>Tim

>Not always. If the corner is an increasing radius, the apex may be
earlier
>than the center of the corner. If it's a decreasing radius, it will be
>later. It's the point where you are closest to the inside of the
corner and
>usually the point where you begin increasing throttle. Some corners
may
>even have double apexes, i.e. you treat them like two separate
corners.

>Dave "davids" Sparks
>Sequoia Motorsports

Your right I guess I was going for the simple explaination....
Tim
Bryon La

Apex

by Bryon La » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


        I dated a girl once who was double apexed.....those were the days...

bryon
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Michael Kirt

Apex

by Michael Kirt » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>    I dated a girl once who was double apexed.....those were the days...
>bryon
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ROFLMAO!! That is funny. BTW, is that something they are born with or
can you teach that?

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Michael Kirton


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