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I've been playing SCGT for about 6 months.
I have the boxed CD, the official 1.551 patch and an alternate US Pits
1.551 patch. Also, the Ban-scene patch to unpack the scene.mas.
I'm playing on a 1.4Ghz AMD with a GeForce3 Ti200.

I've carefully performed a fresh, full-install(many times) and played.
Of course, after the cube error, I apply the patch. I've also taken
care of all the usual errors (cube, flg, etc) that I've seen posted.

given track will load. Many times, it just dumps out to the desktop
with no error message (even in the log).
I tried the max to low detail settings in all combinations but it has
no effect on whether 1024x768 will dump out.
At 800x600, the problem disappears. But 800x600 on a 19" monitor two

1024x768 looks better to me.
At this point, I'm all out of ideas...
I feel forced to use 800x600.

I love all of the add-ons for this game. I've downloaded over a Gig of
tracks, cars, etc. The third-party community for SCGT is better than
any other game that I've seen. But please, keep in mind that the
problems I'm refering to occur before I add all of these extras on.
Otherwise, I'd naturally have something to troubleshoot.

Anyone that always uses 1024x768 with an Nvidia card, let me know!
Could it be that SCGT is better designed for a Voodoo card?
Is there something that I can edit to make it more stabile?

3D add-ons) and MTBR run great as well. So, I don't think it's a PC
problem.

I have used that patch. I've dealt with the cube errors.

I'm talking about general instability with 1024x768.
Please read my post above.

What I meant was that I've used the 1024 fix that's posted above.

I researched it myself by reading your previous posts.
You've been quite helpful. I have two of your posts bookmarked
because the advice was excellent for dealing with the flg00.bmp
and the cloudb00.bmp problems. But now when it dumps out, it
leaves no message on the desktop or in the error log. So I don't
have a trail to follow.

I see people post questions constantly that have been answered
time and time again. That's what I wanted to "cut through".
As far as my computer, I have no problems with other games. Not to
say that it couldn't be my computer. But I didn't want the typical
form responses like "buy a bigger power supply".

I'm still very curious if anyone with an Nvidia card runs all tracks
in all conditions at 1024x768.

I came to board looking for answers.
Not to offend.

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This works for all tracks except Sebring.

- You should take note of the error messages you get when the game crashes
in each of the broken tracks.
- If you haven't already done so get the 'Ban Scene' utility and extract all
the track files.
- Note that the detail level you run the tracks at in the game will
determine which files you'll need to edit. The highest track detail relates
to all the xxxx4.scn files - the lowest = xxxx1.scn.
- Go into the DAT folder and backup all the *.scn files you expect to edit
(eg atln4.scn, chta4.scn, etc.)
- Open up each chosen .scn file and comment out the "AnimRuleName" code
referring to the file reported after the crash (often flga, or logow00.bmp,
etc - if there is no error message just comment out ALL the "AnimRuleName"
code), then save the file. Eg in ATLN4.scn I did this:

//AnimRuleName=logow
//{
//  AnimBaseName=logow
//  AnimFrames=(4)
//
AnimSequence=(0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,3,3,0,3,3,0,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3)
//  AnimMethod=cycle
//  AnimRate=(15.0)
//}

  NOTE: I put // in front of each line to make the game ignore it - this has
the same effect as deleteing them but its a bit safer.

- You should now be able to play all but Sebring at 1024x768
res.

Now my fix for Sebring:

- the SEBAMAP.MAS file seems to be missing 2 image files
- Use the MASpuce utility by Tagforce to extract FLGA.BMP from ATLNMAPS.MAS
- Make a copy of it and rename the copy FLGB.BMP
- Use MASpuce to add FLGA.BMP & FLGB.BMP into the SEBAMAP.MAS file.

Good luck,

AnimSequence=(0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,3,3,0,3,3,0,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,
3)

You know, I previously tried what Krunch suggested, when Haqsau
suggested it on 7-13-01.
I must've made some mistake before, because it worked today.
I edited all the ****4.scn files and it was fine. After firing it up
several times and selecting random tracks, with or without rain, it
didn't fail me once. Right on.

Super! Thanks guys...

BTW, Electronic Arts/ISI don't seem to give a flying f*** about the
game. With all the posts and third-party fixes, they seem to be
strangely silent over the past two years. With the exception of one
patch, it seems like they whipped it out the door and forgot about it.
I'd love to see someone besides EA turn out a newer GT game.

"daisykillbot" <

  Glad these fellows were able to show you what to do.
  EA bought and released the game for ONE reason.  To get an experienced
programming team working on an existing product so that their new F1 title
would come out BEFORE the rumoured release date of Geoff Crammond's GP3.
While ISI worked on SCGT before EA purchased them, they were immeadiately
re-assigned to begin converting SCGT over to an F1 product.  It's not that
they didn't give a flying **** about it...they just never had any time to
support it.  The AOE editor was leaked by one of the team and after that,
they all had their noses buried in F1.
dave  henrie

I suppose that makes a lot more sense than the Wicked Witch of EA
sitting on the hill laughing at me while I try to get SCGT up to
snuff...

After getting the 1024 happening I finally added the Touring Car patch
from the Pits. With that, the AOE editor, third party tracks and the
TransAm/Vintage TransAm patch, I got a bunch of new games. Righteous!

Glad you got it working.  I just reinstalled it myself the other day,
just a few days before your post.  This time I decided not to install
any add-ons though, because last time I got so deep in the add-ons that
I was having serious frame rate problems and it became unplayable.  So
this time I did the 1.551 patch and the Ban Scene patch (and that just
to get rid of the CD check) and nothing else.  I play it without mirrors
and without***pit in 800x600, because even though it looks arcadey and
crude in that mode it was the way it was designed to be played and
everything else I ever did to it seemed to make the playability suffer
in one form or another.  I used the cheat codes to get all the cars and
tracks and just race GT1's, which IMO don't really benefit from the AOE
settings.  I haven't even bothered tricking them out, I just bought a
6th gear for each car and nothing else.  Each to his own.  I know I'm
missing a lot of really cool add-ons by playing it this way, but frankly
it's pretty damn fun just the way it is.

With 15 hi-poly cars and the animation, the only frame rate hog I have
is Desert Speedway. I assume it's all that rendering. I might edit the
****3.scn file and use that.

With the 1024 happening, it actually looks pretty darn good. I don't
use the***pits, because I haven't found one that I like. Something
similar to the one in N4. With RPM lights, etc.

This game rocks.

And yes, I guess I need to take my lumps and prepare for that smack...

Yeah, that is one of the other reasons I don't use the***pits, they
don't really offer the kind of experience you get from a real***pit
view.  I have tried the all-dash patch (now that one will keep you busy
for a while) and still didn't like it.  None of the dashes work as well
as the no-dash view, and a 2D***pit doesn't really help you position
your vehicle on the road like a 3D one does.  Plus I think it was Dave
Henrie who recently pointed out that headlights don't work in the
***pit view, but do work in the non-dash view.  It doesn't take that
long to get used to, the sides of your car are at the bottom corners of
the screen.  Never let the edge of the road touch the bottom of the
screen, and you are fine.  Arcadey yes, but functional.

Regards,
Hal