to Rally Trophy). Perhaps this show car from the IAA in Frankfurt will be
interesting:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
It should go on sale in late 2004. I think it's a beautiful update of a
classic.
Stephen
It should go on sale in late 2004. I think it's a beautiful update of a
classic.
Stephen
> I know there are a few of you who like this little beast (perhaps also due
> to Rally Trophy). Perhaps this show car from the IAA in Frankfurt will be
> interesting:
> http://auto-motor-sport.de/d/44668
> It should go on sale in late 2004. I think it's a beautiful update of a
> classic.
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
"Goy Larsen" wrote
A front wheel drive Fiat Uno (or whatever is underneath) is capturing the
spirit of the original? Please...
I wonder when we will get rid of all these retro cars. No offense.
Bye,
Leo
> A front wheel drive Fiat Uno (or whatever is underneath) is capturing the
> spirit of the original? Please...
> I wonder when we will get rid of all these retro cars. No offense.
A wonderful looking Italian designed car and you wonder when we will get rid
of them? To be replaced by what?
Best looking modern car I've seen for ages, plus this one of course:
http://car.kak.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=news&file=article&sid=...
Which also boringly relives the history of previous Italian sports cars.
Hopefully RWD & 400+BHP might negate the lack of retro appeal...
Cheers
Tony
Jason
> >Best looking modern car I've seen for ages, plus this one of course:
> I hate Ford, but the new GT40 is *** as hell.
> > "Goy Larsen" wrote
> > > Me like very much, capturing the spirit of the original one but still
> > > looking like a modern car, well done
I wonder if they will build the car like these pics -- note that there is
some clearance above the top of the tires before you get to the fender
line. Unlike many cars, this one looks like it might have some room in the
wheel wells for some actual ride travel, and thus the _chance_ of having a
decent ride. So many current cars are "styled" with small, tight fitting
wheel wells, with the result that the suspension has to be set so it
engages the bump ***s (bump stops) as soon as someone climbs into the
car. This pretty much means that you can forget about a good ride, since
the bump stops are bound to make the spring rates nonlinear...
This thing is going to slot in between the Mini Cooper and Mini Cooper S for
price, I imagine. What else in that price range is any more interesting or
competent than a 990kg, 140hp FWD car with minimial overhang at each end and
some sense of style? My Focus is dynamically at the top of the FWD heap, I
would say, but it tips the scales at almost 1300kg. Even my diminutive MX-5
is over 1000kg, and although its RWD handling is very rewarding, it's
certainly no longer the last word in chassis sophistication, although a good
set of Konis can keep it up to date. I'll give Lancia credit for building a
compact coupe. No one else seems to have the balls to step out of the hot
hatchback / sedan mould. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the 1-series BMW
offers an interesting and affordable RWD coupe to the market, but I somehow
doubt it. Having driven the original Fulvia, I certainly have nothing
against quick FWD cars with a decent driving position and well-conceived
suspension. Can Lancia pull it off, based on the Ypsilon chassis (also the
Fiat Punto)? Who knows, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. My
opinion on "retro" cars is split. The New Beetle and PT Cruiser I can live
without. I'm warming to the Mini Cooper, but could do without the excessive
touches in the interior, and please throw away the silly 17" wheels and put
some proper lightweight 15s on it; that car is way over-tired. I'm going to
watch the Fulvia very closely as a possible replacement for my MX-5.
Stephen
Bye,
Leo
> "Goy Larsen" wrote
> > Me like very much, capturing the spirit of the original one but still
> > looking like a modern car, well done
> A front wheel drive Fiat Uno (or whatever is underneath) is capturing the
> spirit of the original? Please...
> I wonder when we will get rid of all these retro cars. No offense.
My current car, a 99 Opel Omega station wagon is a perfect example of
this, except that they didn't use a very good program to calculate the
shape so I own a large and extremely heavy blob, which with the help of
a set of decent 17" wheels and a lowering kit is being transformed into
something I can actually stand to look at, it is however a large and
extremely heavy blob
Retro cars at least make an attempt to stand out from the crowd by
design rather than by accident and I would be perfectly happy driving
around in a retro Fulvia without needing to add bigger wheels and a
suspension kit, actually, I do hope they change the design of the wheels
and do some more work on the front end as the more I look at it I really
don't think Lancia's new "corporate front end" looks all that good on a
retro car, it doesn't look all that good on a modern car either, maybe
they could change it on their whole lineup and start with the Fulvia
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
Bye,
Leo
Give me the old Fulvia any day (not like I could ever find one in Canada
anyays)
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
> Give me the old Fulvia any day (not like I could ever find one in Canada
> anyays)
At least the new Fulvia retains the body style of the old one and hasn't
magically sprouted a rear hatch or been fattened up beyond recognition to
compete on interior space.
Cheers
Tony
> > Retro cars at least make an attempt to stand out from the crowd by
> > design rather than by accident
> It's a 50 year old design that stands out. That's too easy, a cheap trick.
> My point is it should be perfectly possible to create a new design that
> stands out, and still make your heart skip a beat. The new Lancia nose
> design (not the new 'Fulvia's) is so unashamedly fifties retro, it's
> pathetic. Oh well, we'll probably end up in blobs anyway.
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
Which is the main reason I find it appealing. How many manufacturers offer
a "Coup" which isn't (a) a fastback or hatch or (b) over 3200 lbs? A
compact, 1000kg, notchback coupe. Sign me up... at east for an in-the-flesh
look and test drive.
Stephen
p.s. and current safety standards mean we will never have the delicate
roofline of the original Fulvia, or the minimalistic propostions of most
60's classics. Of course, it's all a matter of taste, but I really like the
look of the new Fulvia, compared to what else is available in that segment.