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More than 360

po..

More than 360

by po.. » Sun, 12 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
driving simulator combination that allows the
steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
degrees.

Ta

Mark Charlesworth

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Chris Arnd

More than 360

by Chris Arnd » Sun, 12 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Yes that's what he means

That would be cool if someone could rig a set of gears up so that the wheel
turns more than the steering shaft. dunno how it could be done though.

CA

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> There aren't any more than 360 degrees!
> Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution
> lock-to-lock?


> > Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
> > driving simulator combination that allows the
> > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
> > degrees.

> > Ta

> > Mark Charlesworth

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Leaky_Valv

More than 360

by Leaky_Valv » Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:00:00

There aren't any more than 360 degrees!
Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution
lock-to-lock?


> Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
> driving simulator combination that allows the
> steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
> degrees.

> Ta

> Mark Charlesworth

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Leaky_Valv

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by Leaky_Valv » Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:00:00

What would be the reason for this, Chris.......to replicate the lock-to-lock on
a NASCAR or tourer?


> Yes that's what he means

> That would be cool if someone could rig a set of gears up so that the wheel
> turns more than the steering shaft. dunno how it could be done though.

> CA

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> 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up Up
> "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> in a position to win, and let circumstances
> dictate the outcome"
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> http://CArndt.tripod.com



> > There aren't any more than 360 degrees!
> > Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution
> > lock-to-lock?


> > > Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
> > > driving simulator combination that allows the
> > > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
> > > degrees.

> > > Ta

> > > Mark Charlesworth

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po..

More than 360

by po.. » Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:00:00

First of all sorry for any confusion caused. Yes I did meant a wheel and
simulator combination that allows the wheel to be turned through more
than one complete revolution lock to lock.

My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push
steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's Handbook'
for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me to
unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a safe
simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the correct
software control to allow various setting for different vehicles this
would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for
fun'.

If this sort of wheel and simulator combination already exist please let
me know.

Thanks again,

Mark Charlesworth



> What would be the reason for this, Chris.......to replicate the
lock-to-lock on
> a NASCAR or tourer?


> > Yes that's what he means

> > That would be cool if someone could rig a set of gears up so that
the wheel
> > turns more than the steering shaft. dunno how it could be done
though.

> > CA

> > --
> > ===============================
> > Chris Arndt
> > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up Up
> > "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> > in a position to win, and let circumstances
> > dictate the outcome"
> >               -Richard Petty
> > http://CArndt.tripod.com



> > > There aren't any more than 360 degrees!
> > > Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution
> > > lock-to-lock?


> > > > Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
> > > > driving simulator combination that allows the
> > > > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
> > > > degrees.

> > > > Ta

> > > > Mark Charlesworth

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Steve Ferguso

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by Steve Ferguso » Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:00:00

: My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push
: steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's Handbook'
: for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me to
: unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a safe
: simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the correct
: software control to allow various setting for different vehicles this
: would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for
: fun'.

By pull-push, do you mean shuffling the wheel through a turn, i.e. never
crossing your hands?  If so, I thought this was now (rightly) out of
fashion with most police forces in the UK.  When I was there in the
summer, there was a big article about how this technique had resulted in
many accidents involving cruisers, especially as the speeds rise with the
advent of Subaru Impreza WRC pursuit vehicles.  Many forces are now
advocating a technique that involves crossing over the hands when using
more than, say, 120 degrees of lock.  If this is what you actually mean,
then ignore my reply :)

Stephen

po..

More than 360

by po.. » Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:00:00

The 1998 edition of Roadcraft that I have suggests 'rotational steering'
which involves crossing over the hands, is appropriate in 'certain
circumstance for example ... high speed manoeuvres' as well as
'pull-push'. Both appear to be intended to applied systematically to
maintain maximum safety in particular circumstance, rather than the lazy
bad habits that I have got into.

I still wonder if there are any wheel and simulator combinations that
allow more than one complete rotation of the wheel, or at least which
wheel(s) allow the greatest number of degrees to be turned.

Ta
Mark Charlesworth




> : My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push
> : steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's
Handbook'
> : for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me
to
> : unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a
safe
> : simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the
correct
> : software control to allow various setting for different vehicles
this
> : would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for
> : fun'.

> By pull-push, do you mean shuffling the wheel through a turn, i.e.
never
> crossing your hands?  If so, I thought this was now (rightly) out of
> fashion with most police forces in the UK.  When I was there in the
> summer, there was a big article about how this technique had resulted
in
> many accidents involving cruisers, especially as the speeds rise with
the
> advent of Subaru Impreza WRC pursuit vehicles.  Many forces are now
> advocating a technique that involves crossing over the hands when
using
> more than, say, 120 degrees of lock.  If this is what you actually
mean,
> then ignore my reply :)

> Stephen

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po..

More than 360

by po.. » Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:00:00

The 1998 edition of Roadcraft that I have suggests 'rotational steering'
which involves crossing over the hands, is appropriate in 'certain
circumstance for example ... high speed manoeuvres' as well as
'pull-push'. Both appear to be intended to applied systematically to
maintain maximum safety in particular circumstance, rather than the lazy
bad habits that I have got into.

I still wonder if there are any wheel and simulator combinations that
allow more than one complete rotation of the wheel, or at least which
wheel(s) allow the greatest number of degrees to be turned.

Ta
Mark Charlesworth




> : My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push
> : steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's
Handbook'
> : for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me
to
> : unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a
safe
> : simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the
correct
> : software control to allow various setting for different vehicles
this
> : would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for
> : fun'.

> By pull-push, do you mean shuffling the wheel through a turn, i.e.
never
> crossing your hands?  If so, I thought this was now (rightly) out of
> fashion with most police forces in the UK.  When I was there in the
> summer, there was a big article about how this technique had resulted
in
> many accidents involving cruisers, especially as the speeds rise with
the
> advent of Subaru Impreza WRC pursuit vehicles.  Many forces are now
> advocating a technique that involves crossing over the hands when
using
> more than, say, 120 degrees of lock.  If this is what you actually
mean,
> then ignore my reply :)

> Stephen

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Steve Ferguso

More than 360

by Steve Ferguso » Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:00:00

: The 1998 edition of Roadcraft that I have suggests 'rotational steering'
: which involves crossing over the hands, is appropriate in 'certain
: circumstance for example ... high speed manoeuvres' as well as
: 'pull-push'. Both appear to be intended to applied systematically to
: maintain maximum safety in particular circumstance, rather than the lazy
: bad habits that I have got into.

Seems odd to teach two different techniques when basic driving skills
should be instinctive.  "Rotational steering" is the standard in North
America, Germany, and Switzerland (the only countries I have experience
with).

Yes, off topic, and I'm not sure about your wheel question.  I haven't
seen one before, but perhaps it would be possible to modify a wheel.  When
I opened my old Thrustmaster, the lock was limited by some stops which
could be modified.  A rotational potentiometer usually has more travel
than is used by the wheels, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Stephen

Robin Lor

More than 360

by Robin Lor » Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:00:00

More to the point, is there any way I can make full lock to lock only 270
degrees on my road car? : ))))

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| Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
| driving simulator combination that allows the
| steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
| degrees.
|
| Ta
|
| Mark Charlesworth
|
|
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| Before you buy.

Mark Seer

More than 360

by Mark Seer » Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Just mount your computer table on casters, bolt the wheel to the table and
voila <G>

MS


> Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and
> driving simulator combination that allows the
> steering wheel to be turned through more than 360
> degrees.

> Ta

> Mark Charlesworth

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

R McAuliff

More than 360

by R McAuliff » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

The hyperstimulator manages to get 1 1/2 or so rotations, just the
limit before you need to take your hands off the wheel ie arms crossed
up. They are a little expensive ($AUS 2000 or so) and also dont have a
fully circular wheel, so they don't suit your interests well. They are
fantastic to use, giving you full lock when you need it (Monaco
hairpins) and sensitivity whilst on the straights and fast corners.
Since almost all pots are limited to about 320 -340 degrees, I don't
know how they do it, but I'm sure the money may have something to do
with it...

R Mc

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