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by **THop** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:38:06

What is the point in all of this modifying the "stockcar" body to a CART
body? If the car is still going to handle like a WC car, then what's the
point. I want a CART car to handle like a CART car. I love NH, but a CART
car handling like a WC car is stupid.....

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by **Tom Pabs** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:53:44

Thop....

"Think" is something you should do before making "post" like that for
goodness sakes, man!

Do you not realize "making a Winston Cup Stock car" that handles like an
IndyCar to be equally stupid?

Could it occur to you that one must change the car 3D body...AND, the car
physics....and that would be a two-step process that our young friend may
not know how to change the car physics yet? Or, even if he does, he chooses
to create the "car body" first?

You ask "what is the point.........?" Can you answer your own question now?

Tom

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:06:44

The point is....
THERE IS NO #(#(*#) CART SIM!!!
Until Cart and the various software houses get their heads pulled outta
their
backsides....we will continue to see efforst like the CartHeat patch, and
the F1CS2k patch. And the GP2 paintjobs, and the gp3 updates.
Wouldn't it be GREAT if he didn't HAVE to mess around with Heat?
One question tho...If you were to create a fake CART Sim...which product
would you base it on? The obvious answer is GPL, but we are going on for
over two years now with No real body enhancements. SCGT, F1CS2k, Heat, all
have at least some ability to be transformed. The Physics model in Heat is
very good, if they EVER get the various racing problems fixed, it would be a
very stout base for a CART sim patch. (btw..don't you think the CARTHeat
car looks too wide and too short?) (I'm sure if they can figure it out, the
car physics will be altered as well.) {thats where SCGT shines}
dave henrie

> Thop....

> "Think" is something you should do before making "post" like that for
> goodness sakes, man!

> Do you not realize "making a Winston Cup Stock car" that handles like an
> IndyCar to be equally stupid?

> Could it occur to you that one must change the car 3D body...AND, the car
> physics....and that would be a two-step process that our young friend may
> not know how to change the car physics yet? Or, even if he does, he
chooses
> to create the "car body" first?

> You ask "what is the point.........?" Can you answer your own question
now?

> Tom

> > What is the point in all of this modifying the "stockcar" body to a CART
> > body? If the car is still going to handle like a WC car, then what's the
> > point. I want a CART car to handle like a CART car. I love NH, but a
CART
> > car handling like a WC car is stupid.....

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by **Thomas Heinema** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:45:05

I do think Nascar Heat will be a very good base for CART racing ;)

And the car I showed was a "first draft", its optimized and more accurate
now.
I will release a sample in a couple of days, with some new screens
and ofcourse I wouldnt make this effort if I weren't confident in making
the physics match the cars....but I really do find it enjoyable to race the
cars with NASCAR physics in some strange strange way...:)

Thomas Heineman
www.cartheat.net

> The point is....
> THERE IS NO #(#(*#) CART SIM!!!
> Until Cart and the various software houses get their heads pulled outta
> their
> backsides....we will continue to see efforst like the CartHeat patch, and
> the F1CS2k patch. And the GP2 paintjobs, and the gp3 updates.
> Wouldn't it be GREAT if he didn't HAVE to mess around with Heat?
> One question tho...If you were to create a fake CART Sim...which product
> would you base it on? The obvious answer is GPL, but we are going on for
> over two years now with No real body enhancements. SCGT, F1CS2k, Heat,
all
> have at least some ability to be transformed. The Physics model in Heat
is
> very good, if they EVER get the various racing problems fixed, it would be
a
> very stout base for a CART sim patch. (btw..don't you think the CARTHeat
> car looks too wide and too short?) (I'm sure if they can figure it out,
the
> car physics will be altered as well.) {thats where SCGT shines}
> dave henrie

> > Thop....

> > "Think" is something you should do before making "post" like that for
> > goodness sakes, man!

> > Do you not realize "making a Winston Cup Stock car" that handles like an
> > IndyCar to be equally stupid?

> > Could it occur to you that one must change the car 3D body...AND, the
car
> > physics....and that would be a two-step process that our young friend
may
> > not know how to change the car physics yet? Or, even if he does, he
> chooses
> > to create the "car body" first?

> > You ask "what is the point.........?" Can you answer your own question
> now?

> > Tom

> > > What is the point in all of this modifying the "stockcar" body to a
CART
> > > body? If the car is still going to handle like a WC car, then what's
the
> > > point. I want a CART car to handle like a CART car. I love NH, but a
> CART
> > > car handling like a WC car is stupid.....

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by **Wosc** » Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:10:15

Why not have car bodies at all? Why not just have a lot of boxes going
around the track? Why do people make graphics updates for tracks? To make
the game look better. Some people would rather look at a Champ Car than a
sedan running around in a circle. Just like the GTP carset for ICR2...sure
the physics weren't of a GTP car, but it sure did look awesome and I love
those cars...why are you going to be mad at me because there wasn't a good
GTP sim out at the time and I felt like thinking I was driving a GTP car?

JB

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