rec.autos.simulators

by **MrAdamHn** » Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I just picked up DTR and I love it, loads of fun. I am a little unclear about
the groove on a dirt track. The instructions make it sound like I will run
quicker if I stay out of the groove, am I reading this right?

Also, can anyone recommend any good pages for DTR or an offline league.

Thanks

by **Shaun Robinso** » Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Offline league... DTR... are you crazy? That game is the bomb racing
with other -humans-. The game was made for online racing.

> I just picked up DTR and I love it, loads of fun. I am a little unclear about
> the groove on a dirt track. The instructions make it sound like I will run
> quicker if I stay out of the groove, am I reading this right?

> Also, can anyone recommend any good pages for DTR or an offline league.

> Thanks

by **Pete** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Go to www.bhmotorsports.com look at the track guides for the tracks
I have posted and you will see where the fast line is at those tracks.

Pete

by **Pat Dotso** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I don't think that's the question.

The question is - is there more grip available in the
groove than out of the groove?

--
PD

> Go to www.bhmotorsports.com look at the track guides for the tracks
>I have posted and you will see where the fast line is at those tracks.

> Pete

>> I just picked up DTR and I love it, loads of fun. I am a little unclear
>about
>> the groove on a dirt track. The instructions make it sound like I will
run
>> quicker if I stay out of the groove, am I reading this right?

>> Also, can anyone recommend any good pages for DTR or an offline league.

>> Thanks

by **Pete** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

It depends on the track. Some tracks the groove is
the fastest, at others the shortest way around the track
is the fastest. Trial and error is the only way to find out.

Pete

by **Pat Dotso** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

So, you're telling me you don't know the answer to the
question?... :)

--
PD

> It depends on the track. Some tracks the groove is
>the fastest, at others the shortest way around the track
>is the fastest. Trial and error is the only way to find out.

> Pete

>> I don't think that's the question.

>> The question is - is there more grip available in the
>> groove than out of the groove?

>> --
>> PD

by **Bill Met** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I think there may even be a third possibility. At some tracks it seems
like you can go high and "lean on the cushion." This effect seems very
evident at Knoxville. At least to me.

> It depends on the track. Some tracks the groove is
>the fastest, at others the shortest way around the track
>is the fastest. Trial and error is the only way to find out.

>> I don't think that's the question.

>> The question is - is there more grip available in the
>> groove than out of the groove?

--
| "Instead of letting the moon be the
Bill Mette | gateway to our future, we have let
Enteract, Chicago | it become a brief chapter in our

by **Pete** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Some tracks have more than one groove. I don't pretend
I have all the answers, perhaps you should answer the question
for us and share your all knowing wisdom! :-)

Pete

by **Pat Dotso** » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Hey, I'll ask the questions around here :)

Seriously, the guy asked a good question. It does seem that
there is a definite groove in DTR. Specifically, it seems that
there is more grip at the cushion than away from it. This is
an entirely different subject than racing line and track camber.

Does the track surface actually offer more grip on the cushion?
I have no idea, but would like to know.

--
Pat Dotson

> Some tracks have more than one groove. I don't pretend
>I have all the answers, perhaps you should answer the question
>for us and share your all knowing wisdom! :-)

> Pete

>> So, you're telling me you don't know the answer to the
>> question?... :)

>> --
>> PD

by **Pete** » Wed, 08 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Yes, it does! Nocks Hill is the easiest to see this at
but it does seem to be correct at other tracks as well
and using a combination of the cushion with the line
gets the best results.

Pete

by **john moor** » Wed, 08 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Ummm, just on the cushion is fastest for me. Although you can get passed
that way.
Even a bigger question is, does the dry/tacky setting effect this
phenonom?
John Moore

> Yes, it does! Nocks Hill is the easiest to see this at
> but it does seem to be correct at other tracks as well
> and using a combination of the cushion with the line
> gets the best results.

> Pete

> > Hey, I'll ask the questions around here :)

> > Seriously, the guy asked a good question. It does seem that
> > there is a definite groove in DTR. Specifically, it seems that
> > there is more grip at the cushion than away from it. This is
> > an entirely different subject than racing line and track camber.

> > Does the track surface actually offer more grip on the cushion?
> > I have no idea, but would like to know.

> > --
> > Pat Dotson

by **Pete** » Wed, 08 Dec 1999 04:00:00

John, most definitely! If you remove that cushion via drying
the track out, your line will have to change or you will end up
in the wall.

Pete

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