rec.autos.simulators

Why have some people in this group suddenly become the "Software Police"
 If someone has a question about a game, and the info is in the manual,
that does not mean that they pirated the game. I know that I myself, in
my haste to play "Grand-Prix All Star Nascar 3" have just popped in the
CD typed install, and chucked the manual into the closet. I have also
overlooked items in the manual. And like a post I've seen in here
earlier, my Rendition ICR2 had NO manual. So instead of accusing someone
of piracy, why don't we just answer their question, and give them the
benefit of the doubt?

Can't We all get along?

-Jody-
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jodys_pit_stop/

Well Said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Outlaw Alf

Go 24 Straight to victory Lane
Outlaw Designs Nascar Sim Page
http:\\members.aol.com\outlawalf\index.htm

I agree that a lot of these posts are going a bit overboard...The only
thing I'm against is out-right distribution of copyrighted software (as
in providing the Indy track for download).

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing Online / Sim Racing News / The Sim Project
No Piracy! Support Sites

Innocent until proven guilty...

Alan
http://www.kiva.net/~akh/simshop.html

Hi Jody,

.. <<

I've never done this myself but tend to agree with those who do. However
I'd much prefer people do so with politeness and courtesy rather than the
abusive approach often taken here. I'd like this forum to be a friendly
place where anyone could come and expect to be treated respectfully, but
alas ...

I don't think these forums ought to tolerate piracy because I believe it
untimely undermines the benefit these forums have to offer. Its very
desirable IMO that these forums are held in good regard by the software
producers. The software producers are far more likely to have sympathetic
ears and harbour an attitude of forum participation if they can view these
places as a valid means for their customers to gain the most from their
products. If they feel that these forums are used to assist pirates to
steal their products then naturally their valuable input would be
jeopardised.

As I say, I don't think that anyone ought to be abused here, for any
reason. If a pirate type request appears to be made by someone them I think
they should be politely and respectfully told the reasons why people are
suspicious and reticent to give aid for that purpose.

I agree totally that even genuine users of software products sometimes like
to get a quick answer from someone who already knows rather than read the
manual. I suppose its a matter of judgement if it seems that we may be
unwittingly assisting piracy.

My 2 cents, FWIW

Phillip McNelley

The GRANDprix 2 Unoffical Manual
http://www.powerup.com.au/~philmak/GP2MAN/

( GMT + 10 )

If someone can't be bothered to look in the manual that they received
when they bought the software, I'm not *personally* inclined to help
them. If they didn't receive a manual because they didn't buy the game,
then I the only thing I want to help them with is sending them the
address of the game publisher and the SPA to mail their check for
copyright violation.

If the answer isn't in the manual, or they honestly looked and couldn't
find it (probably the fault of the manual), then I'm more than happy to
help someone out. IMNSHO, life's too short to help someone who's too
lazy to attempt to help themselves.

---Jim

Jerry Morelock

a) not bought the software legally .
b) If he or she HAS in fact bought the software determine whether
or not he/she has read the manual and if so has she /he done it
correctly ????????????????????//
c) all this to answer a lousy question

Well Jim here are a couple for you :

1) what if the software company I bought the software from
SIERRA/PAPYRUS writes an incomplete and shitty manual such as they
did for NASCAR2 ???
2) May I please then go to a simracing group or other source to
obtain little tidbits of USEFUL information I can use ??

And on an ending note people . I support the efforts of the U.S. Pits
and others to fight software piracy but lets not turn this into a
witch hunt ! Some people can read things fifty times and not get it
right . I know I've done it a few times , miss something in the
instructions and it's help groups like this that help us out of that
little jam ! If someone is obviously needing assistance with a "hack"
or pirated program then ignore it ! But dont use this as a bash session
on some guy who just wants a question answered .

Thank You

David Hudson

Agreed... but I 'did' say 'overlooking something in the manual' not
ignoring the manual. A subtle but important distinction. ;o)

Alan
http://www.kiva.net/~akh/simshop.html

Buyer beware...

Marc

Alan
http://www.kiva.net/~akh/simshop.html

Same here.......It appears to me, that some people just cannot be
bothered to check the manual?
Which is their prerogative, but it grates a little when they then proceed
to whine about not being able to do something, which is blatantly obvious
if you just RTFM!!!!!

d:~))

 **Peter** (generally considers himself to be helpful?)