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Alan Coate

RT how the hell...

by Alan Coate » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:22:22

How do u get to the Kenya and Finland rallies?
I've only got the Russia one displayed.
The manual states that all three should be available initially
I can't get past stage 6 in Russia either 6/6?
'sposed to be eight.
WTF

Just like owning the Demo except I paid for this.

Could be a West Bros thing as I noticed they are mentioned in the credits
YAWN

Alan

Jim Seamu

RT how the hell...

by Jim Seamu » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:39:18

If you're in championship mode, you need to finish in the top 6 in Russia to
move on to Kenya. The 7th and 8th Russian stages are only available in
expert mode. Unlock expert mode (and the Lancia Stratos) by finishing in the
top 6 in an intermediate championship.

I think you can access Kenya without driving Russia first if you go for the
"Single Rally" option rather than the "Championship" one. Can't say for sure
because now that I've finished the intermediate championship I may have
unlocked direct access to Kenya somehow, if you see what I mean.

Cheers
Jim


Bobb

RT how the hell...

by Bobb » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:56:58

Nope, you have to unlock it in the intermed championship.

I thought the credits sequence was actually very snazzy...

Bobby

Andre Warring

RT how the hell...

by Andre Warring » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:59:30

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:22:22 -0000, "Alan Coates"


>How do u get to the Kenya and Finland rallies?

SPOILER BELOW

SPOILER BELOW

SPOILER BELOW

SPOILER BELOW

SPOILER BELOW

SPOILER BELOW

Create a new driver, call him KALJAKOPPA (in capitals) and you can
drive any car/track you want :)

In arcade mode you have 2 'extra' tracks for each country I believe,
two round tracks.

Andre

Alan Coate

RT how the hell...

by Alan Coate » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:18:11


That may be but many would be anoyed that the promise in the manual is not a
fact. I guess like most sims they are brought by many 'casual' players who
do not have the time for the serious simming and just want a bit of driving
fun. This locking would mean only Russia would be available to them and one
shouldn't have to resort to cheats to get at the game they have paid for.
Another point is that no rally driver would have to drive a track for the
first time actually within a rally. That would be just plain ludicrous and
downright dangerous!

I learnt GPL from scratch and every car and track in that was available.
This is the first time I have purchased a Rally sim, so it'll be ages before
I become competent enough to unlock the rest of the game. To me this is
downright boring. I just don't see the point.

Still driving GPL after 3 years and will continue to do so. Can't say that
will be the same with this.

Alan

David Butte

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by David Butte » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:34:21


<snip>

The answer to this is elsewhere in the thread (ie do well on
Intermediate mode), but it got me thinking... why does there have to be
this obsession with "unlocking" tracks at all? There's an Arcade mode
in the game - surely that's the place for this sort of thing?

It always irritated me slightly with Codemasters games - it was so
*boring* on games like TOCA2 slogging your way through ridiculously
easy races in order to get to the interesting stuff. (Or, indeed, using
cheat codes - another annoying console-ism).

This game is supposed to be (in the main) a sim rather than an arcade
bash, so why couldn't RT have done the sensible thing, and allowed
Expert mode from the start, with all the arcadey stuff confined to
Arcade mode where it belongs? This "unlocking" stuff does *not* add to
the "gameplay experience"!

(Of course, in GPL you can drive the Ring in an F1 Lotus from the
start, but then that's a bit of a one-off...)

--
Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which
deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan

The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Rob Adam

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by Rob Adam » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:46:13

Most simulations of real series (GPL, most if not all modern F1 games, RC
2000, etc.) allow you to run all the tracks and all the cars. Games that
don't simulate real series or are arcade racers use the unlocking gimic to
hide the fact that their game has no longevity. Note I'm including the CMR
games in the second category.

Hopefully RT is an exception to this rule, but I will probably just use the
cheat code on day 1.



> > How do u get to the Kenya and Finland rallies?
> > I've only got the Russia one displayed.
> <snip>

> The answer to this is elsewhere in the thread (ie do well on
> Intermediate mode), but it got me thinking... why does there have to be
> this obsession with "unlocking" tracks at all? There's an Arcade mode
> in the game - surely that's the place for this sort of thing?

> It always irritated me slightly with Codemasters games - it was so
> *boring* on games like TOCA2 slogging your way through ridiculously
> easy races in order to get to the interesting stuff. (Or, indeed, using
> cheat codes - another annoying console-ism).

> This game is supposed to be (in the main) a sim rather than an arcade
> bash, so why couldn't RT have done the sensible thing, and allowed
> Expert mode from the start, with all the arcadey stuff confined to
> Arcade mode where it belongs? This "unlocking" stuff does *not* add to
> the "gameplay experience"!

> (Of course, in GPL you can drive the Ring in an F1 Lotus from the
> start, but then that's a bit of a one-off...)

> --
> Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which
> deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan

> The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Jim Seamu

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by Jim Seamu » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:03:15


I agree with you Alan, the manual is misleading. I was pretty annoyed to
discover on first booting the game that (1) I couldn't drive in expert mode
immediately and (2) if I wanted to unlock expert mode then the very first
stage I had to drive was the one from the demo, which I'd already driven 20
times with the Mini.

I learnt GPL from scratch too, and this is my first rally sim. It took me
about 2.5 hours to complete the Intermediate championship (I used the Fulvia
as it's FWD) and now I have expert mode unlocked (which is damned good, and
is going to keep me busy for way more than 2.5 hours). To be honest I
enjoyed the intermediate mode, but I completely understand that some people
would not have the time nor the inclination to drive for that time. I guess
if you're in that group you could use the unlocking code, which is a naff
idea but hey, it'll take you 5 seconds and you'll have what you want at the
end of it.

Cheerio
Jim

Jani Tuomin

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by Jani Tuomin » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:50:51

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:18:11 -0000, "Alan Coates"


>Another point is that no rally driver would have to drive a track for the
>first time actually within a rally. That would be just plain ludicrous and
>downright dangerous!

Nothing to do with RT really but... Atleast here in Finland, that's
just what they do! The historic rally series here is run just like
that, and they don't even have the notes, they just drive as they see
the road ahead.

Back to RT. Is the only way to race full races to race expert mode? It
sounds bit stupid to run Fiat 600 (106hp) against 230hp Escorts and
240hp Stratos!!! Atleast I enhoy running the more powerfull cars but I
still want to race full races with all the stages.

Gunnar Horrigm

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by Gunnar Horrigm » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:38:22


> If you're in championship mode, you need to finish in the top 6 in Russia to
> move on to Kenya.

oh man.  that annoying thing again.  what about the AI drivers?  do
they need to finish top 6 to move on?

--
Gunnar
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                    to err is human -- to forgive is bovine.

Uwe Schuerka

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by Uwe Schuerka » Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:54:12


> I thought the credits sequence was actually very snazzy...

> Bobby

Me too! Somehow it was both funny and "emotional", and it goes
to show the developers poured quite a bit of "heart ***"
into this product. Almost GPL-esque, so to speak ;-)

uwe


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