rec.autos.simulators

by **Olly Greenfiel** » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:25:07

It sometimes seems to me that some of the people in this newsgroup are ***
obsessive cynics who always see the glass as half empty instead of half full
when it comes to any new racing sims. Some extremist GPL fanatics have
already declared that their will never ever ever be another sim as good as
GPL, which renders their opinions pretty worthless given such a
predisposition toward negativity . Although , I guess if a new game were to
ever come out that (ymenard) and company actually gave rave reviews, it
would have to be pretty awesome, but I think it will be a cold day in you
know where before that happens. Anyways, I was thinking about some of the
new games that have come out in the last year or so, and I was wondering
which ones other people have actually thought were fun. I am not asking you
whether you thought the game was extremely accurate as a sim, or was
revolutionary, or was nearly flawless , or even lived up to your
expectations and anticipations. I would like to know which games were fun
for you , warts and all.
here is a list of games that I had fun playing, many of which I would never
have been aware of had I not heard at least a few positive comments from the
more objective voices in this newsgroup. I greatly appreciate those
newsgroup participants who seem to be on top of any breaking news on whats
going on in the sim racing world.
1. Mercedes Benz Truck Racing
2. Screamer 4X4
3. Motocross madness 2
4. Nascar 4
5. Nascar Heat
6.RallyMasters
7. ATV Offroad Fury PS2

All of these games made me smile at some point and think, " this is so much
fun, I love videogames ".

by **Mikkel Gram-Hanse** » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:53:00

1: Insane
2: RC2000
3: Nascar Heat

[snip]> 1. Mercedes Benz Truck Racing

by **Alan Bernard** » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:10:24

1. Nascar 4
2. GP3
3. CMR2

I don't have them all, but of the ones that I do have, I enjoy these the
most. If GP3 had solid netplay, it would possibly be at the top.

Alanb

by **Michael R Sisso** » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:16:20

<snip>

My best sims of the last 12 months...

1 - nsane in the membrane!

2 - Nascar 4

(Actually, N4 is #1 for me. Just thought it was sort of clever to use the
1 in 1nsane for the list ;) )

MRSisson

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by **GMpartsdud** » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:57:23

Hmmm. My favorite sims in the last 12 months..Lets's see..

1> John Deere's Lawnmower 2K.(Golf course edition)
2> Sim Ecstasy Jag (from the makers of Beer Vomit Bingo)
3> California Freeway Sprint.
4> Tuna-boat Commander
5> Used Car Salesman 2001

Enjoy !

by **Joachim Blu** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:05:36

Hey, you forgot Backhoe Simulator 2001!

;)

Regards
Crash

by **Dave Henri** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:14:03

> Hey, you forgot Backhoe Simulator 2001!
Thats because until they release a patch for the two hydraulic control
levers, it can't REALLY be classified as a sim.
dave henrie

by **Jeff Vince** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:21:19

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:25:07 GMT, "Olly Greenfield"

>It sometimes seems to me that some of the people in this newsgroup are ***
>obsessive cynics who always see the glass as half empty instead of half full
>when it comes to any new racing sims. Some extremist GPL fanatics have
>already declared that their will never ever ever be another sim as good as
>GPL, which renders their opinions pretty worthless given such a
>predisposition toward negativity . Although , I guess if a new game were to
>ever come out that (ymenard) and company actually gave rave reviews, it
>would have to be pretty awesome, but I think it will be a cold day in you
>know where before that happens.

Perhaps you haven't noticed YMenard giving rave reviews to MBTR?
Methinks some "objective" folks have their blinkers on a bit too tight
as well. :)

To your list I'd add:
* NFS:Porsche Unleashed/Porsche 2000
* 1NSANE

To get back to your original rant, though, each of these games are
usually good for 3-4 weeks, then I get bored and go back to (do I have
to say it?). (Actually, not really "go back", since I usually don't
stop driving "you know what" completely.) :)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

by **Kevin Gavit** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:41:26

And they really used 2000 models. I HATE when they do that. John Deere puts
the decals in a slightly different place in 2001.

KFG

by **RenderedBri** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:47:41

1. Screamer 4x4
2 Merc benz truk racing
3 Insane

--
brian

"I am the Prince of Insufficient Light"

by **ymenar** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:24:08

LOL okay. It's still the best title of the year 2000.

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by **ymenar** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:27:13

Weeee, I'm a net.celebrity !

Fun for a short time
I liked more the original, but it's a fine piece of arcad efun
In it's own class with GPL
You like jaggies? ;-)

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-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Olly Greenfiel** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:07:25

> > Although , I guess if a new game were to
> > ever come out that (ymenard) and company actually gave rave reviews, it
> > would have to be pretty awesome, but I think it will be a cold day in
you
> > know where before that happens.

> Weeee, I'm a net.celebrity !

> > 1. Mercedes Benz Truck Racing
> 2000 SOTY
> > 2. Screamer 4X4
> Fun for a short time
> > 3. Motocross madness 2
> I liked more the original, but it's a fine piece of arcad efun
> > 4. Nascar 4
> In it's own class with GPL
> > 5. Nascar Heat
> Good sim
> > 6.RallyMasters
> Good sim
> > 7. ATV Offroad Fury PS2
> You like jaggies? ;-)

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

It's refreshing to see that there are games other than GPL that you like at
least a little bit, and I was unaware of your having given Mercedes racing
high marks in the past.
As far as ATV Offroad Fury is concerned, while it is admittedly somewhat
more arcade than sim, your comments about it having an abundance of jaggies,
I don't quite see, so to speak. I thought maybe I had overlooked them in the
midst of having so much fun playing this game, so I popped the game into my
PS2 just to look for the extreme level of jaggies I might have missed.
Ironically, this seems ,to my eyes at least, to be one of the few PS2 games
that has very few jaggies. Many PS2 games have far more jaggies than even
most Dreamcast games, but ATV Fury is not one of them. If you sit 2 feet
from a 27" tv screen and look at a still image of the game , you can find
some jaggies here and there on track objects, but when the game is in motion
even those jaggies are hard to see unless you are looking for them. Also,
the TV at normal viewing distances tends to blur jaggies for all but the
worst of games. Maybe you are refering to screen captures present on the
internet, which often make even most PC games look worse than they do when
the game is in motion.

by **Phil Le** » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:08:53

I have bought a whole fistful of race sims in the last 12 months. Looking
at the CD rack beside my monitor 22 race sims of differing quality in my
collection. Of those a dozen or so were bought in the last 12 months. From
these titles, 3 really stand out. They are:

1. Nascar 4

I have only had this for 4 weeks or so and it has already become a firm
favourite. It is definitely holding its own against the previous king of
sims, GPL. In fact, in the last week I have driven N4 way more than GPL.
Perhaps this is a sign that I needed a break from GPL but it certainly shows
the quality of N4. Online racing is excellent. I never thought driving
around in a circle could be so challenging.

2. Mercedes-Benz Truck Racing

MBTR has that killer combination of great physics and great eye candy. It
really is an excellent sim with that intangeable "certain something" that
makes you want to go back to it time and again. Perhaps it is the challenge
of the driving model, to know that the reason you are slow is because you
aren;t driving correctly and that if you learn how to drive things will
improve. Whatever it is, this was the best race sim released in the year
2000.

3. Superbike 2001

SBK2001 is another fine sim. It has the best graphics of any PC program I
have experienced. The track models are fantastic and the game engine gives
excellent framerates. Above all the racing is fun.

Cheers

Phil
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GPL Handicaps: F1 -3.09 secs, F2 +115.11 secs

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