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Game controller ID's changing randomly

roy

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by roy » Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:12:26

I have a Logitech Formula Force, Saitek X-36, and Gravis Gamepad Pro, all
USB, and every time i restart windows 98se, the controller ID's are
different. This is a problem since most games set the controls based on the
ID. I cant even get the Saitek profiler to work unless it's on ID 1. Anyone
know how to fix this stupid problem? I think it's insane the most popular OS
has such basic problems with game controllers.
Tom Pabs

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by Tom Pabs » Fri, 21 Sep 2001 03:10:33

Roy....

This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes many forms....this
is one of them.

You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my guess is
you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as
prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation uses different
chipset drivers than does Intel).

Here's what you can do:

1.  If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it
(Intel website).
2.  Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control systems
(I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB controllers).
3.  If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90% chance
that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers.  Do a
"registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your
controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders (you
should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driver files
via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer).  Once done, install
your primary controller.  Then install each of the other secondary
controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two
controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the
primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problem with
each secondary you add.  If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....then its
one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way to find
out which one.  Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problem and
see if they have updated drivers available.

I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without
taking the steps above.

I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's an easier
solution available now?  Can anyone who has more current knowledge of this
issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions?  My
information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year
ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last week
(don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current
information for Roy....that would be great.

What a hassle.....I know....I had it too.

Regards,

Tom

roy

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by roy » Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:42:57

Actually i have an AMD.... its an Abit KT7-RAID mobo


Rafe McAulif

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by Rafe McAulif » Wed, 26 Sep 2001 00:59:07

Are you able to use the Quickjoy utility to set controller IDs? Just a
thought...

Rafe Mc


>Actually i have an AMD.... its an Abit KT7-RAID mobo



>> Roy....

>> This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes many
>forms....this
>> is one of them.

>> You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my guess
>is
>> you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as
>> prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation uses different
>> chipset drivers than does Intel).

>> Here's what you can do:

>> 1.  If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it
>> (Intel website).
>> 2.  Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control
>systems
>> (I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB controllers).
>> 3.  If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90% chance
>> that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers.  Do a
>> "registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your
>> controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders (you
>> should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driver
>files
>> via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer).  Once done, install
>> your primary controller.  Then install each of the other secondary
>> controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two
>> controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the
>> primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problem with
>> each secondary you add.  If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....then
>its
>> one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way to find
>> out which one.  Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problem and
>> see if they have updated drivers available.

>> I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without
>> taking the steps above.

>> I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's an easier
>> solution available now?  Can anyone who has more current knowledge of this
>> issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions?  My
>> information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year
>> ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last
>week
>> (don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current
>> information for Roy....that would be great.

>> What a hassle.....I know....I had it too.

>> Regards,

>> Tom

Larr

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by Larr » Wed, 26 Sep 2001 03:09:23

QuickJoy doesn't work with 2K/XP, unfortunately :(

-Larry


> Are you able to use the Quickjoy utility to set controller IDs? Just a
> thought...

> Rafe Mc


> >Actually i have an AMD.... its an Abit KT7-RAID mobo



> >> Roy....

> >> This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes many
> >forms....this
> >> is one of them.

> >> You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my
guess
> >is
> >> you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as
> >> prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation uses
different
> >> chipset drivers than does Intel).

> >> Here's what you can do:

> >> 1.  If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it
> >> (Intel website).
> >> 2.  Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control
> >systems
> >> (I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB
controllers).
> >> 3.  If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90%
chance
> >> that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers.  Do a
> >> "registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your
> >> controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders
(you
> >> should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driver
> >files
> >> via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer).  Once done,
install
> >> your primary controller.  Then install each of the other secondary
> >> controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two
> >> controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the
> >> primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problem
with
> >> each secondary you add.  If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....then
> >its
> >> one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way to
find
> >> out which one.  Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problem
and
> >> see if they have updated drivers available.

> >> I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without
> >> taking the steps above.

> >> I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's an
easier
> >> solution available now?  Can anyone who has more current knowledge of
this
> >> issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions?  My
> >> information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year
> >> ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last
> >week
> >> (don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current
> >> information for Roy....that would be great.

> >> What a hassle.....I know....I had it too.

> >> Regards,

> >> Tom

Thom j

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by Thom j » Wed, 26 Sep 2001 06:02:55

I use Quickjoy for even my FF TM USB and FF Guillemot USB
controllers.. It works just great! :)


| Are you able to use the Quickjoy utility to set controller IDs? Just a
| thought...
|
| Rafe Mc
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Thom j

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by Thom j » Wed, 26 Sep 2001 06:13:44

That stinks! :( "Quickjoy" really saves time and aggravation when
switching from one game controller to another via a clickity click!! :)


| QuickJoy doesn't work with 2K/XP, unfortunately :(
|
| -Larry
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Rafe McAulif

Game controller ID's changing randomly

by Rafe McAulif » Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:02:39

Bummer for those using 2k/xp, but Roy said he was using win98SE, so it
might be an option.

Rafe Mc


>QuickJoy doesn't work with 2K/XP, unfortunately :(

>-Larry


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