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by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:00:40

I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep
moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and
acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down,
then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again.
So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks
like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and
enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser
keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays
online...java games)
So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :)
And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system??

dave henrie

by **McCrac** » Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:12:59

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:00:40 -0600, Dave Henrie

> I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep
>moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and
>acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down,
>then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again.
> So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks
>like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and
>enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser
>keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays
>online...java games)
> So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :)
>And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system??

>dave henrie

You've got bigger issues if you can't get IE6 running without
crashing. I use Firebird but I disable Java, just allow Javascript.
There is an option to enable/diable Java in the settings area though.
You could also try the java enabled version of Opera too. Opera comes
in two versions, java and non-java, I use the latter. I don't need no
s***kin' java.

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:06:02

(Agreed, but everything else seems stable and crashfree)
<Both java boxes are check enabled>
/ Mee neither, but this is to free up the *** machine so I'll definitely
look into the java enabled opera.\
thanks!!
dh
{who can already hear the complaints when the buttons are not in the same
place!}

by pw » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:39:43

Have you tried iRider Dave (www.irider.com)? It's an IE "clone" but I
think it's the best browser going. Especially usefull for viewing
picture sites and the like. I've bought and tried Opera, Mozilla
Firebird and the latest Mozilla but all I use now is iRider.

-pw
Paul Williamson
Livingston, MT
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by **Michi Hircz** » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:51:49

> I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep
> moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and
> acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down,
> then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again.
> So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks
> like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and
> enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser
> keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays
> online...java games)
> So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :)
> And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system??

I use Firebird on my Computer for about 1 year now.. to make Java
working, I hat to install the Java Runtime Environment (check out
www.java.com [_NOT_ java.sun.com] - the JRE at java.com works better IMHO).

hth
michi
www.f16simulator.net

by **Damien Evan** » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 07:06:27

Interesting. Shame you can't uninstall IE6 in WinXP...

by **The Carvalho Famil** » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 09:37:19

LOL! That's why I'm stuck with Netcape 7.1!

Jim

by **alex** » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 10:55:56

For PIII I'd recommend Opera. (I would recommend it for any computer,
but on older computers its speed is particularly useful).

And look at the things from the positive angle - if IE doesn't
run that means you'll probably miss the next great virus ;->

Alex.

by **Pigg** » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:00:27

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 01:55:56 GMT,

>And look at the things from the positive angle - if IE doesn't
>run that means you'll probably miss the next great virus ;->

>Alex.

Yea, but you need IE to get MS security updates because it uses
ActiveX. I had to use IE6 just to get a patch for Fifa2004 from EA.
They seem to think they are MS now and you have to get game updates by
using their web update exe which also uses ActiveX. That really pissed
me off.

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:20:48

Well the good news is....I Finally got it working. The original problem was ie6
would start to load, then freeze. Being the clever smart fellow I am, I attacked the
problem from the wrong angle. I tried 3 browsers, with and without Java and all of them
seemed to not quite function fully.
Finally I downloaded the newest beta of Java. While installing, it asked which
browser I wanted to install Java onto. I have Opera, Mozilla, Firebird and ie6 on
thr spare box I built. but even tho the installer was asking which browser, it only
displayed one checkbox for ie6. It is like the installer was either configured soley for
ie6 or my system was not correctly reporting the other browsers.
anyhow...to end this 4 night story...As soon as I got the beta Java installed,
ie6 took off and ran like it was supposed to. Pages loaded quickly and the
Java enabled games worked. So IF I had been born a smart and clever man,
I might have figured out that the reason ie6 wasn't working in the first place was
because it lacked a plugin. Oh well.
I still don't know why my leftover system would not install the other two
versions of Java properly. Or why the beta version of Java finally did
install smoothly. But whatever the reason. At least one browser is working
and that's good enough for me.
Thanks for your help and suggestions folks.

dave henrie

by **Larr** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:09:51

You should install, update and run SpyBot 1.2 and CWShredder.

I'm willing to bet you have Spyware messing with IE.

-Larry

constantly locking up and
I shut the system down,
the past and this looks

by **bhoeni** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:38:12

Interesting Browser, but does it have a built-in newsgroup reader? Right now, I use Netscape for NG
reading, but it's too damn unstable (crashes a lot). And I don't like Outlook's NG reader at all.

> > I'm trying to build a PIII computer with leftover parts for my wife so She won't keep
> >moving my wheel on my 'racing' box. It's all up and running but IE6 is constantly locking up and
> >acting flakey. If I redload and reinstall it, ie6 will work great..untill I shut the system down,
> >then the next time I fire up the machine...ie6 goes haywire again.
> > So I saw some mentions here on RAS of Firebird. I've used Mozilla in the past and this looks
> >like it's similar. It runs fine, no lockups like ie6. BUT...I can't get Java loaded and
> >enabled. Oh sure, the plugins installer SAYS Java was installed, but the browser
> >keeps refusing to run anything JAVA(which I NEED cuz that's what the Missus plays
> >online...java games)
> > So who gets the credit for WASTING my last two nights? Whos the genius? :)
> >And who knows how to get JAVA working on a win98se system??

> >dave henrie

> Have you tried iRider Dave (www.irider.com)? It's an IE "clone" but I
> think it's the best browser going. Especially usefull for viewing
> picture sites and the like. I've bought and tried Opera, Mozilla
> Firebird and the latest Mozilla but all I use now is iRider.

> -pw
> Paul Williamson
> Livingston, MT
> please use "paulwilliamson at spamcop.net" for e-mail
> thanks

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by **Dave Henri** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 09:32:40

done both...clean...brand new Compusa generic harddrive. Nothing on there.
spybot, ad aware, cwshredder AND avg antivirus. It's most likely a something
barfed during windows installation.
dave henrie

by **Andre** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:53:18

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:38:12 -0500, BRH

>Interesting Browser, but does it have a built-in newsgroup reader? Right now, I use Netscape for NG
>reading, but it's too damn unstable (crashes a lot). And I don't like Outlook's NG reader at all.

Why on earth do you want a browser with a built in newsgroup reader?
Just get a proper newsgroup reader (Agent, Gravity, Xnews.....).
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