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by **Tim** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 06:11:40

I got my copy of GTR in the mail last nite,perfect
timing as the whip and kids are off to grandmas house.
I set my graphics options to full ,res 1600x1200 no aa.
My setup is AMD 64 3400 gig of ram 6800 gt.
My framerates while hotlapping ranged from the low 60s to
over a 100, looking good so far.

Next I tried a single race at Monza with 39 cars, starting
at the back of the pack with 20 cars visible Chuga chuga,
starting frame rates were 15 jumping to the low 20s as
the field thinned out.

Time for some tweaking, The best playable res was 1024x768
with all the graphics option set med to low,this got me 40 fps at start
up to the 60s as the field thinned.

What's the point of my rant? Nothing really,I just enjoy
complain, although I am curious if others are experiencing
the same poor performance.I saw a couple of guy bragging on the
GTR forums of much better performance with similar hardware,
typically you can take that with a grain of salt,these are the kind
of guys that use there system specs as there sig!
I will be mostly be racing on a closed LAN with 4 to 5 guys so
I was wondering if any one has any comments on performance in
that situation?

Tim Y

by **BRH** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:58:36

> I got my copy of GTR in the mail last nite,perfect
> timing as the whip and kids are off to grandmas house.
> I set my graphics options to full ,res 1600x1200 no aa.
> My setup is AMD 64 3400 gig of ram 6800 gt.
> My framerates while hotlapping ranged from the low 60s to
> over a 100, looking good so far.

> Next I tried a single race at Monza with 39 cars, starting
> at the back of the pack with 20 cars visible Chuga chuga,
> starting frame rates were 15 jumping to the low 20s as
> the field thinned out.

> Time for some tweaking, The best playable res was 1024x768
> with all the graphics option set med to low,this got me 40 fps at start
> up to the 60s as the field thinned.

> What's the point of my rant? Nothing really,I just enjoy
> complain, although I am curious if others are experiencing
> the same poor performance.I saw a couple of guy bragging on the
> GTR forums of much better performance with similar hardware,
> typically you can take that with a grain of salt,these are the kind
> of guys that use there system specs as there sig!
> I will be mostly be racing on a closed LAN with 4 to 5 guys so
> I was wondering if any one has any comments on performance in
> that situation?

> Tim Y

Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis on
the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

by **Tony Rickar** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:15:58

> What's the point of my rant? Nothing really,I just enjoy
> complain, although I am curious if others are experiencing
> the same poor performance.I saw a couple of guy bragging on the
> GTR forums of much better performance with similar hardware,
> typically you can take that with a grain of salt,these are the kind
> of guys that use there system specs as there sig!

Turning off high resolution car livery made a big difference to me. It is
greyed out but ticked in the demo. Unchecking the box I have noticed the fps
back to the demo levels and no noticeable difference in car quality.

Before that I was frustrated not to get anywhere near the demo performance,
now it runs fine.

Cheers
Tony

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:27:12

> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis on
> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

probably not on his CPU. I run GTR on an athlon64 3400, and switching
off motec results in an fps increase of 2-3 fps. Not really worth it;
I saw a much bigger increase (6-10 fps) on my previous AthlonXP 2400+.
I see the biggest fps hit with many cars ONLINE, offlince races with
20 cars are ok (never less than 40 fps on an ati radeon 9800 pro).

cheers, uwe

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by **Paul Harringto** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:38:45

What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this work?

thx

Paul

by **Andi Col** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:56:44

Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

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by **Paul Harringto** » Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:21:52

Sorry if I'm being thick, but where is the motec analyser? I've treid the
interpreter, but it wont open replays.

thx

Paul

> Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

> --
> Andi.

> Remove only one zero to reply

> >> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
> >> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis
on
> >> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

> > What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this work?

> > thx

> > Paul

by **Andi Col** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 00:15:36

OK, so yes you can't, I must admit I thought you couls analyse tehreplay
file, I suspect what you have to do is run the replay with the log analyser
turned on.

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> Sorry if I'm being thick, but where is the motec analyser? I've treid the
> interpreter, but it wont open replays.

> thx

> Paul

>> Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

>> --
>> Andi.

>> Remove only one zero to reply

>> >> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
>> >> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis
> on
>> >> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

>> > What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this work?

>> > thx

>> > Paul

by **Paul Harringto** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:22:09

OK - how do I turn on the log analyser? I did a search on the simbin forum
and found no reference to it.

thx

Paul

> OK, so yes you can't, I must admit I thought you couls analyse tehreplay
> file, I suspect what you have to do is run the replay with the log
analyser
> turned on.

> --
> Andi.

> Remove only one zero to reply

> > Sorry if I'm being thick, but where is the motec analyser? I've treid
the
> > interpreter, but it wont open replays.

> > thx

> > Paul

> >> Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

> >> --
> >> Andi.

> >> Remove only one zero to reply

> >> >> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If
you
> >> >> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its
analysis
> > on
> >> >> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

> >> > What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this
work?

> >> > thx

> >> > Paul

by **Andi Col** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 06:48:47

See page 4 of the manual.

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> OK - how do I turn on the log analyser? I did a search on the simbin forum
> and found no reference to it.

> thx

> Paul

>> OK, so yes you can't, I must admit I thought you couls analyse tehreplay
>> file, I suspect what you have to do is run the replay with the log
> analyser
>> turned on.

>> --
>> Andi.

>> Remove only one zero to reply

>> > Sorry if I'm being thick, but where is the motec analyser? I've treid
> the
>> > interpreter, but it wont open replays.

>> > thx

>> > Paul

>> >> Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

>> >> --
>> >> Andi.

>> >> Remove only one zero to reply

>> >> >> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If
> you
>> >> >> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its
> analysis
>> > on
>> >> >> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

>> >> > What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this
> work?

>> >> > thx

>> >> > Paul

by **Paul Harringto** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 07:50:22

I've tried the manual - the english one is very short and page 4 is just
about modes (arcade, etc) and the German one is a) in German and b) just a
list of key mappings. Even the GTR engineers manual has nothing about it on
page 4. Maybe you have a manual I don't?

Paul

> See page 4 of the manual.

> --
> Andi.

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> > OK - how do I turn on the log analyser? I did a search on the simbin
forum
> > and found no reference to it.

> > thx

> > Paul

> >> OK, so yes you can't, I must admit I thought you couls analyse
tehreplay
> >> file, I suspect what you have to do is run the replay with the log
> > analyser
> >> turned on.

> >> --
> >> Andi.

> >> Remove only one zero to reply

> >> > Sorry if I'm being thick, but where is the motec analyser? I've treid
> > the
> >> > interpreter, but it wont open replays.

> >> > thx

> >> > Paul

> >> >> Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

> >> >> --
> >> >> Andi.

> >> >> Remove only one zero to reply

> >> >> >> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If
> > you
> >> >> >> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its
> > analysis
> >> > on
> >> >> >> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

> >> >> > What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this
> > work?

> >> >> > thx

> >> >> > Paul

by **BRH** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:24:53

>>Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
>>run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis on
>>the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

> What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this work?

> thx

> Paul

You need to download a program called "MoTeC Beginner's Guide" which
contains a file called MoTeC Organizer (Version 1.3). Unfortunately, I
don't recall where I got it from. (Can anyone help out here? Or try a
Google Search?). You'll need to follow instructions in the Beginner's
Guide carefully to set things up correctly. (It's a bit involved). But
when MoTeC Organizer is set-up properly, you can list your replay laps
(even ones where MoTeC was not active) then choose one to load. It then
automatically starts up MoTeC, and it analyzes your replay.

by **Andi Col** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:32:44

I think you can get all the software from www.motec.com

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>>>Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
>>>run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis on
>>>the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

>> What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this work?

>> thx

>> Paul

> You need to download a program called "MoTeC Beginner's Guide" which
> contains a file called MoTeC Organizer (Version 1.3). Unfortunately, I
> don't recall where I got it from. (Can anyone help out here? Or try a
> Google Search?). You'll need to follow instructions in the Beginner's
> Guide carefully to set things up correctly. (It's a bit involved). But
> when MoTeC Organizer is set-up properly, you can list your replay laps
> (even ones where MoTeC was not active) then choose one to load. It then
> automatically starts up MoTeC, and it analyzes your replay.

by **Andi Col** » Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:32:18

Sorry, the full manual on the first CD in pdf.

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> I've tried the manual - the english one is very short and page 4 is just
> about modes (arcade, etc) and the German one is a) in German and b) just a
> list of key mappings. Even the GTR engineers manual has nothing about it
> on
> page 4. Maybe you have a manual I don't?

> Paul

>> See page 4 of the manual.

>> --
>> Andi.

>> Remove only one zero to reply

>> > OK - how do I turn on the log analyser? I did a search on the simbin
> forum
>> > and found no reference to it.

>> > thx

>> > Paul

>> >> OK, so yes you can't, I must admit I thought you couls analyse
> tehreplay
>> >> file, I suspect what you have to do is run the replay with the log
>> > analyser
>> >> turned on.

>> >> --
>> >> Andi.

>> >> Remove only one zero to reply

>> >> > Sorry if I'm being thick, but where is the motec analyser? I've
>> >> > treid
>> > the
>> >> > interpreter, but it wont open replays.

>> >> > thx

>> >> > Paul

>> >> >> Just run the MoTec analyser and open a replay file.

>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Andi.

>> >> >> Remove only one zero to reply

>> >> >> >> Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate.
>> >> >> >> If
>> > you
>> >> >> >> run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its
>> > analysis
>> >> > on
>> >> >> >> the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

>> >> >> > What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this
>> > work?

>> >> >> > thx

>> >> >> > Paul

by **Joao Gonzale** » Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:30:26

>>>Turning off MoTec results in a significant jump in framerate. If you
>>>run a good lap, you can always save it and have MoTec do its analysis on
>>>the replay. So, it's not necessary to have it on all the time.

>> What do you mean about Motec analysing the replay? How does this work?

>> thx

>> Paul

> You need to download a program called "MoTeC Beginner's Guide" which
> contains a file called MoTeC Organizer (Version 1.3). Unfortunately, I
> don't recall where I got it from. (Can anyone help out here? Or try a
> Google Search?). You'll need to follow instructions in the Beginner's
> Guide carefully to set things up correctly. (It's a bit involved). But
> when MoTeC Organizer is set-up properly, you can list your replay laps
> (even ones where MoTeC was not active) then choose one to load. It then
> automatically starts up MoTeC, and it analyzes your replay.

Its in the SimBin forum. First 2 pinned posts here:

http://www.gtr-game.com/forums/index.php?showforum=32

Great reading and very useful.

Joao Gonzalez

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