rec.autos.simulators

by **David Stampe** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 04:50:19

Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've sold
that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop
before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

David Stamper

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **Steve Smit** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:18:02

Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that
the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company, so
they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says they
can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct
link here:

http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales have
been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse and
will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB
connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI
card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are
now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any*
FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and modulate
"threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims, this
didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but ever
since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of the
brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering.
Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a
tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

--Steve Smith

by **Rush** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:35:27

I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today.

Rush

> Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that
> the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company,
so
> they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says
they
> can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct
> link here:

> http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales
have
> been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse
and
> will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
> previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB
> connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI
> card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are
> now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
> steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any*
> FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
modulate
> "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,
this
> didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but
ever
> since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of
the
> brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering.
> Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a
> tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> --Steve Smith

> > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've
sold
> > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop
> > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > David Stamper

> > http://www.ecci.net

by **David Stampe** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:35

Thanks Steve, Yea I had a CDS 4000. There is no comparison to any other
wheel in my opinion. I am dying to get one of these 6000's just got to get
the wife to go along or just promise not to leave me if I get one. ;)

David Stamper

> Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that
> the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company,
so
> they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says
they
> can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct
> link here:

> http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales
have
> been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse
and
> will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
> previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB
> connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI
> card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are
> now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
> steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any*
> FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
modulate
> "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,
this
> didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but
ever
> since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of
the
> brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering.
> Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a
> tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> --Steve Smith

> > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've
sold
> > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop
> > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > David Stamper

> > http://www.ecci.net

by **David Stampe** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:13:34

You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT?

David Samper

> I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today.

> Rush

> > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression
that
> > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small
company,
> so
> > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says
> they
> > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct
> > link here:

> > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales
> have
> > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse
> and
> > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
> > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is
USB
> > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI
> > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals
are
> > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
> > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than
*any*
> > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
> modulate
> > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,
> this
> > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but
> ever
> > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of
> the
> > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering.
> > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot
a
> > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> > --Steve Smith

> > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've
> sold
> > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the
scoop
> > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > > David Stamper

> > > http://www.ecci.net

by **Rush** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:36:44

I am going with the GTS. John Pribble even added the higher ratio pulley on
the dampener. I like a workout when I race.

Know anyone wanting a fully loaded CDS4000 Pocono for $300 plus shipping?

> You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT?

> David Samper

> > I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today.

> > Rush

> > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression
> that
> > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small
> company,
> > so
> > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says
> > they
> > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed.
Direct
> > > link here:

> > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent
sales
> > have
> > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick
outhouse
> > and
> > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
> > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is
> USB
> > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a
PDPI
> > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals
> are
> > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
> > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than
> *any*
> > > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
> > modulate
> > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of
sims,
> > this
> > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar
Racing--but
> > ever
> > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application
of
> > the
> > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great
steering.
> > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can
flat-spot
> a
> > > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> > > --Steve Smith

> > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've
> > sold
> > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the
> scoop
> > > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > > > David Stamper

> > > > http://www.ecci.net

by **Mitch_** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:03:45

I couldnt find anything but do they sell the 6000 pedals separately and if
so how much. I dont need the clutch but would like the PMB2 option.

Mitch

> Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression that
> the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small company,
so
> they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says
they
> can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct
> link here:

> http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales
have
> been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse
and
> will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
> previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is USB
> connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI
> card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals are
> now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
> steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than *any*
> FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
modulate
> "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,
this
> didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but
ever
> since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of
the
> brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering.
> Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot a
> tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> --Steve Smith

> > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've
sold
> > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the scoop
> > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > David Stamper

> > http://www.ecci.net

by **DStampe** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:46:41

From what I've seen they do sell the 3000 series pedals ($200). I had a set
just like these with my CDS 4000. And mine had the PMB2 brake system.

> I couldnt find anything but do they sell the 6000 pedals separately and if
> so how much. I dont need the clutch but would like the PMB2 option.

> Mitch

> > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression
that
> > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small
company,
> so
> > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy says
> they
> > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed. Direct
> > link here:

> > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent sales
> have
> > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick outhouse
> and
> > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from a
> > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new is
USB
> > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a PDPI
> > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The pedals
are
> > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not the
> > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than
*any*
> > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
> modulate
> > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of sims,
> this
> > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar Racing--but
> ever
> > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application of
> the
> > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great steering.
> > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can flat-spot
a
> > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> > --Steve Smith

> > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If they've
> sold
> > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the
scoop
> > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > > David Stamper

> > > http://www.ecci.net

by **Steve Smit** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:09:59

That's a good price. The last one I saw on eBay went for over $400.

> I am going with the GTS. John Pribble even added the higher ratio pulley
on
> the dampener. I like a workout when I race.

> Know anyone wanting a fully loaded CDS4000 Pocono for $300 plus shipping?

> > You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT?

> > David Samper

> > > I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way today.

> > > Rush

> > > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the impression
> > that
> > > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small
> > company,
> > > so
> > > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy
says
> > > they
> > > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed.
> Direct
> > > > link here:

> > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent
> sales
> > > have
> > > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick
> outhouse
> > > and
> > > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units from
a
> > > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new
is
> > USB
> > > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have a
> PDPI
> > > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The
pedals
> > are
> > > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race cars.

> > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not
the
> > > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate than
> > *any*
> > > > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> > > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
> > > modulate
> > > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of
> sims,
> > > this
> > > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar
> Racing--but
> > > ever
> > > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous application
> of
> > > the
> > > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great
> steering.
> > > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can
> flat-spot
> > a
> > > > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> > > > --Steve Smith

> > > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If
they've
> > > sold
> > > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us the
> > scoop
> > > > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > > > > David Stamper

> > > > > http://www.ecci.net

by **DStampe** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:18:08

Very good price. I tried to email you on this but the spam blocker got me.
Send me a mail if you haven't sold it yet.

> That's a good price. The last one I saw on eBay went for over $400.

> > I am going with the GTS. John Pribble even added the higher ratio
pulley
> on
> > the dampener. I like a workout when I race.

> > Know anyone wanting a fully loaded CDS4000 Pocono for $300 plus
shipping?

> > > You better give us a full report when you get it. Did you get the GT?

> > > David Samper

> > > > I order mine direct from Andy last Thursday and its on its way
today.

> > > > Rush

> > > > > Talked with Andy Cers (ECCI's CEO) today, and he says the
impression
> > > that
> > > > > the new 6000-series is "out of stock" is in error. It's a small
> > > company,
> > > > so
> > > > > they aren't sitting on a warehouse full of these things, but Andy
> says
> > > > they
> > > > > can ship an order within a day or two of the order being placed.
> > Direct
> > > > > link here:

> > > > > http://ecci6000.com/consumerhome.htm

> > > > > Based on ECCI's previous "prosumer" efforts (most of their recent
> > sales
> > > > have
> > > > > been to commercial simulators), the 6000 is built like a brick
> > outhouse
> > > > and
> > > > > will last practically forever (I have one of their first units
from
> a
> > > > > previous century and it still looks brand new inside). What's new
> is
> > > USB
> > > > > connectivity (a gameport connector is available if you still have
a
> > PDPI
> > > > > card and an ISA slot) and fully adjustable pedal geometry. The
> pedals
> > > are
> > > > > now suspended from above, just like the pedals in most RW race
cars.

> > > > > In my experience, what makes ECCI gear worth the big bucks is not
> the
> > > > > steering mechanism itself (smoother, silkier, and more accurate
than
> > > *any*
> > > > > FF unit I've tried), but the pedals. Where RW drivers score big
> > > > > improvements in lap times is in the ability to sense, sustain, and
> > > > modulate
> > > > > "threshold" braking (just short of lockup). In the early days of
> > sims,
> > > > this
> > > > > didn't matter--you *couldn't* lock up the brakes in IndyCar
> > Racing--but
> > > > ever
> > > > > since GPL and the advent of Schumacher-like simultaneous
application
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > brake and throttle, great pedals are more important than great
> > steering.
> > > > > Particularly in N2003, where injudicious use of the brakes can
> > flat-spot
> > > a
> > > > > tire and cost you a pit stop or even the race.

> > > > > --Steve Smith

> > > > > > Looked into ordering one today, says their out of stock. If
> they've
> > > > sold
> > > > > > that many of them surely someone here has one and can give us
the
> > > scoop
> > > > > > before we plunk down a grand for one of these puppies.

> > > > > > David Stamper

> > > > > > http://www.ecci.net

by **MARK D TANE** » Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:00:43

I have an E1000/E2000 wheel & pedals and got my new unit last week and it's
great. There are more adjustments than you could imagine for the pedals. I
mostly play F1C and my times on all tracks is a lot better. The feel of the
pedals and wheel is great. I highly recommend it if you want a super wheel
and pedals.

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