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N2003: Cumulative Repair

Jason Moy

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Jason Moy » Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:38:28

I kinda thought this worked in N1/2/99/3/4/2002 but figured I'd
mention it since I've seen posts about it.  I just canceled repairs
after letting the team work on the car for about a minute or so since
the pace car was closing in and was able to dive back in the pits and
fix the remaining damage in about 10 seconds.

Jason

Larr

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Larr » Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:56:00

There has never been cumulative repairs in any Nascar Racing title though
I've been yelling for it for years.

Larry


Mike Grand

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Mike Grand » Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:44:06

I can't remember back too far but N4 I was able to stop repairs and then go
back in and finish the repairs. Is that what you guys are talking about?


Larr

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Larr » Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:21:50

No...

Cumulative repairs meaning each time you visit the pit, your crew is able to
improve the repair (or lessen the damage effects) at each stop thus
improving the car each time.

In Nascar Racing, your guys go to lunch after the first attempt, and what
you get is all you get.  In such a realistic SIM, cumulative repairs would
have been a natural.

Larry


> I can't remember back too far but N4 I was able to stop repairs and then
go
> back in and finish the repairs. Is that what you guys are talking about?



> > There has never been cumulative repairs in any Nascar Racing title
though
> > I've been yelling for it for years.

Jason Moy

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Jason Moy » Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:29:28

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:44:06 GMT, "Mike Grandy"


>I can't remember back too far but N4 I was able to stop repairs and then go
>back in and finish the repairs. Is that what you guys are talking about?

That's what I meant, and I thought Larry did as well.  You can repair
a bit of the car, go back out, then come back in and repair the rest
or just a bit more.  I kinda thought you could even do that in Nascar
1 but hadn't tried it in N4 or 2002.

Jason

Larr

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Larr » Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:22:16

I think you are talking about the _number_ of things getting repaired, not
the overall _quality_ of the repair.

In other words, if we were both to have the exact same accident, with the
exact same damage, and you did your repairs over two stops because you
stopped them half-way through the first time, but I did all mine on the
first stop, we would both in the end get the exact same level of repair when
it was all over.

What I'm talking about is any one damaged area being improved with
repetitive stops in the pits.  That doesn't happen, and it's a shame.  I
would not expect this to continue until the damage was totally gone, of
course, but it would be nice if each stop the crew was able to at least
improve the situation up to a certain level.

Just like the real guys.

Larry


> On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:44:06 GMT, "Mike Grandy"

> >I can't remember back too far but N4 I was able to stop repairs and then
go
> >back in and finish the repairs. Is that what you guys are talking about?

> That's what I meant, and I thought Larry did as well.  You can repair
> a bit of the car, go back out, then come back in and repair the rest
> or just a bit more.  I kinda thought you could even do that in Nascar
> 1 but hadn't tried it in N4 or 2002.

> Jason

Jason Moy

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Jason Moy » Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:27:12


> I
>would not expect this to continue until the damage was totally gone, of
>course, but it would be nice if each stop the crew was able to at least
>improve the situation up to a certain level.

>Just like the real guys.

One thing they could do in a patch that I suppose would be more
realistic, is make it take longer to repair damage.  It's kinda
ridiculous that most repairable damage can be fixed in one yellow flag
pitstop.  If severe damage required say 15 minutes of constant
repairing to get the car back to the level a fully repaired car would
be at instead of 2 minutes then you'd really have no choice but to sit
in the pits for 20 laps or keep repairing it little by little.

Jason

Jason Moy

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Jason Moy » Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:28:06


>In Nascar Racing, your guys go to lunch after the first attempt, and what
>you get is all you get.

Unless you don't fully repair it on the first stop. =)

Jason

Larr

N2003: Cumulative Repair

by Larr » Fri, 14 Feb 2003 03:33:41

Yes, we've established that LOL!

:)

Larry



> >In Nascar Racing, your guys go to lunch after the first attempt, and what
> >you get is all you get.

> Unless you don't fully repair it on the first stop. =)

> Jason


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