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RF signal suppressors - are they available?

Cameron I

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by Cameron I » Tue, 20 Dec 1994 14:58:37

Hi!!!

A good friend of mine has a 486DX2/66 that has a rather *** habit of
interfering with the TV reception and hence has his parents whining quite
a bit when he is using it.
I was wondering if there was a device you could buy that would suppress
the RF (or whatever they are) signals emanating from the computer and stop
affecting the television reception?

Thanks in advance,

Cameron..

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Mike Harr

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by Mike Harr » Wed, 21 Dec 1994 11:48:51

| 4. If the computer's case isn't shut, then of course shut it. If it is
| shut, then try using copper tape to seal up all the long gaps like you
| would use weather spripping for your home... BUT DON'T SEAL UP THE AIR
| HOLES. Basically, you are looking for long gaps and slots rather than
| small round holes (don't worry about slots around the power supply
| right now). Also, if you put any tape near the circuit board or
| exposed connector, make certain that it doesn't short anything out.
|

But before you try these steps you should first eliminate the cables from
being the cause.  Simply observe whatever device is being interfered with
while you unplug each cable.

olli kinnun

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by olli kinnun » Tue, 20 Dec 1994 23:06:26


(Cameron Ing) says:

Isn't that called FCC ? (or better: FCC approval ?)

Tom Barre

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by Tom Barre » Tue, 20 Dec 1994 23:54:55



>A good friend of mine has a 486DX2/66 that has a rather *** habit of
>interfering with the TV reception and hence has his parents whining quite
>a bit when he is using it.

If it was bought from a dealer as a system, then check with your
government's equivilant to the US Federal Communications Commission as
the system should not interfere with the TV in usual situations.

Here are some tips:

1. If the TV uses unshielded twin-lead, try converting to coax (and
watch out for unshielded coax to twin-lead converters. If you are
using cable, make sure it is completely shielded and not a cheap
slip-on-slip-off type or one with a few flemsey ground strands (if it
bends easy and looks nice, then it probably isn't any good). If the
TV doesn't have a coax input, then you can try to construct a shield
using solderable metal or copper tape.

2. If the computer is near the TV (i.e. on the other side of a wall or
connected through the same AC) or is near the antenna/cable, try to
relocate it as far away as possible.

3. Minimize the cables running from the computer and/or try to
rearrange them to minimize the interference. Wiggle them a bit while
looking at the TV to see if it makes any difference. If they aren't
completely screwed-down, then tighten them. You can also buy clip-on
ferrites for the cables. You can also buy shielded cables... I would
suggest trying to borrow some just to see if they actually help.

4. If the computer's case isn't shut, then of course shut it. If it is
shut, then try using copper tape to seal up all the long gaps like you
would use weather spripping for your home... BUT DON'T SEAL UP THE AIR
HOLES. Basically, you are looking for long gaps and slots rather than
small round holes (don't worry about slots around the power supply
right now). Also, if you put any tape near the circuit board or
exposed connector, make certain that it doesn't short anything out.

5. If still a problem, try using metal screen taped with copper tape
over the air holes on the case (including over the power-supply). Make
sure the screen is of medium size to minimize the affect on the air
circulation (not too small to impede the air nor to large to be
ineffective). To be effective, it must be taped down all around. to
observe the effects and minimize your waste of copper tape, you can
try just holding it firmly against the metal chasis and observe the
TV.

6. You might try to also use an AM or shortwave radio (even better
might be a handheld TV) and see if you can use it near the computer to
pin-point the leakage.

One problem that you will find is that once you seal up one hole, it
will start leaking out another. This is especially true if you are
using a board which was not approved for home use and thus has very
strong RF output. Unless you are a certified computer technician, it
is unwise to attempt to add any suppression circuits to the boards.

Tom
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Frank van der Hul

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by Frank van der Hul » Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:53:51





>>A good friend of mine has a 486DX2/66 that has a rather *** habit of
>>interfering with the TV reception and hence has his parents whining quite
>>a bit when he is using it.

>If it was bought from a dealer as a system, then check with your
>government's equivilant to the US Federal Communications Commission as
>the system should not interfere with the TV in usual situations.

>Here are some tips:
> [Lots of good tips snipped]

Before trying the complex "seal up your PC with copper tape/foil" stuff
suggested, it would be a good idea to try to isolate where the problem
is. One cheap PC I owned generated a lot of RF from the screen.

Does the TV interference vary depending on what's on the screen? On the
video mode?

Try turning off the screen to see if the problem goes away.

If it doesn't then try this:

"Dad, the short wavelength of the screen is interfering with your TV.
What I need is a 20 inch monitor (50% more wavelength), otherwise you'll
never see BH90210 again. It'd make a great Xmas present too." :-)

Frank.

Ed Haymo

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by Ed Haymo » Wed, 21 Dec 1994 07:28:20

| 4. If the computer's case isn't shut, then of course shut it. If it is
| shut, then try using copper tape to seal up all the long gaps like you
| would use weather spripping for your home... BUT DON'T SEAL UP THE AIR
| HOLES. Basically, you are looking for long gaps and slots rather than
| small round holes (don't worry about slots around the power supply
| right now). Also, if you put any tape near the circuit board or
| exposed connector, make certain that it doesn't short anything out.

Also, you might make sure that the screws holding your case together are
making good contact with the metal, so that that parts are grounded
together well.  You might even scrape a little paint from underneath the
screws.

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John Rumba

RF signal suppressors - are they available?

by John Rumba » Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:51:02

  You could also trying putting snap-on, RF chokes on some of tha cables
leading into your computer (eg. keyboard cable, mouse cable, telephone cable
to an internal modem, etc.)  The power cable, parallel printer cable and
video cables should already be well shielded so you shouldn't have to bother
with them.  When putting these RF chokes on the cables, locate them as near
the computer as possible, that is, at the connector end of the cable.  These
chokes are available at Radio Shack the last time I checked.

  Good luck and Seasons Greetings.

John

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