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Satellite dish service

Vintoo

Satellite dish service

by Vintoo » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
packet here and I race too much online).

Vintook

Randy Cassid

Satellite dish service

by Randy Cassid » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Recalling the ~ half second delay in long distance phone calls from the
Eastern U.S. to Hawaii years ago, I can only imagine that using a
satellite based Internet connection could be very, very bad for ***.
 Particularly if the satellites being used are in geosynchronous orbit.
C ~= 186,000 miles/sec.
Geosynchronous orbit is (if I remember correctly) ~22,000 miles out.
Minimum possible round-trip to your ISP =
(22K*4/186K) ~= 0.473.  473 milliseconds!  Assuming no inter-satellite
communications.  Yow!

Randy



John

Satellite dish service

by John » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Don't go satellite! The latency is much greater than ISDN, ADSL, Cable modem
or T1. I even think it has a higher latency than modems!

John


>Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
>upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
>packet here and I race too much online).

>Vintook

Wosc

Satellite dish service

by Wosc » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I would guess that the latency would be bad but after it gets connected, the
rate of download would be pretty good.

|Don't go satellite! The latency is much greater than ISDN, ADSL, Cable
modem
|or T1. I even think it has a higher latency than modems!
|
|John
|
|>Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
|>upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
|>packet here and I race too much online).
|>
|>Vintook
|>
|>
|>
|
|

Jason Mond

Satellite dish service

by Jason Mond » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Satellites have great bandwidth, but high latencies -- don't try it for games.

Jason.


> Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
> upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
> packet here and I race too much online).

> Vintook

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Larr

Satellite dish service

by Larr » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Latency effects _every_ IP request, not just the one to connect to the
site.

-Larry


> I would guess that the latency would be bad but after it gets connected, the
> rate of download would be pretty good.


> |Don't go satellite! The latency is much greater than ISDN, ADSL, Cable
> modem
> |or T1. I even think it has a higher latency than modems!
> |
> |John
> |

> |>Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
> |>upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
> |>packet here and I race too much online).
> |>
> |>Vintook
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |
> |

Larr

Satellite dish service

by Larr » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

You cannot use DirecPC to run on-line ***.

The problem is latency.  Latency on DirecPC is horrible...

The reason for this is that the downlink is non-terrestrial (it comes
from the satellite) and special headers have to be attached to the IP
requests to re-direct the downdata thru the sat system to your your
computer.

Latencies on DirecPC are measured in seconds, not the milliseconds that
are required.

DirecPC is ok for downloading files and web browsing.  It's un-usable
for latency strict functions.

-Larry


> Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
> upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
> packet here and I race too much online).

> Vintook

Larr

Satellite dish service

by Larr » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

It's a LOT higher than modems.

-Larry


> Don't go satellite! The latency is much greater than ISDN, ADSL, Cable modem
> or T1. I even think it has a higher latency than modems!

> John


> >Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking into
> >upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by the
> >packet here and I race too much online).

> >Vintook

Kirk Lan

Satellite dish service

by Kirk Lan » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

One of my friends got it....hardly faster than a 56k!

--
Kirk Lane

ICQ: 28171652


>It's a LOT higher than modems.

>-Larry


>> Don't go satellite! The latency is much greater than ISDN, ADSL, Cable
modem
>> or T1. I even think it has a higher latency than modems!

>> John


>> >Is anyone using a satellite dish setup to run on VROC??? I'm looking
into
>> >upgrading my internet connection but ISDN is too costly(they charge by
the
>> >packet here and I race too much online).

>> >Vintook

Larr

Satellite dish service

by Larr » Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Then something is wrong...

On the downlink, especially from FTP sites, it _usually_ performs well.
In fact, I sometimes get much more than the stated 400k speed.  About 2
weeks ago, I had 9 download pipes running and was pulling 1.5mb/sec
downstream!

I'm not defending Hughes at all.  DirecPC has a ton of technical
problems that can drive you nuts.  And, the company can be one of the
most arrogant organizations I've ever dealt with.

The ARE history as soon as cable hits.

-Larry


> One of my friends got it....hardly faster than a 56k!


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