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Nascar2 good news/bad news

Robert Mull

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by Robert Mull » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00

OK so its out today and I got my copy and installed it. Thats the good
news. Bad news is it wont recognise the same steering wheel controller
that the demo did, it does weird things in the seetings, and it is
constantly locking up on my system. I have managed to get in car twice
by using the keyboard controls but both times it locked up when I
returned to the menu. Other times it locked up before I could even get
in the car. When I went to change the graphics settings last time it
showed like 5246 cars drawn forward 0 cars drawn back min frame rate 0
max framerate of 5246. As soon as I clicked on the arrows to change
them they switched to real world numbers. As soon as I exited bam
lockup. The next time I got in the sound was turned all the way down,
so I turned it up bam lockup. WTF?  I am a realistic person. No first
run software is going to be bug free but this is silly. I have some
other minor problems but unless I can get these big ones figured out,
the whole package is going back to EB.  I know its a litlle bit early
to lament the downfall of Papyrus but there last 2 full releases have
been bug-ridden works in progress. You cant stay at the top with those
kinds of games. I am off in search of solutions, any sage advice would
be appreciated.
System:
P5-166 PCChips M525 Mobo with 256k cache, 32megs EDO ram, STB
Lightspeed 128 2.25m, Diamond Monster 3D, SB AWE 32 original ver(not
PnP), West Dig Caviar 1600, Sony 4x CD, Thrustmaster ACM gamecard,
and Thrustmaster T1 (modified).

Robert Mull

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by Robert Mull » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Nothing worked properly in DOS and I tried a lot of things. Out of
desperation I tried to run from a shortcut in Win95 and voila! all is
good! The frame rate is fine with everything on and 16/4 cars drawn, I
would estimate 20fps. The graphics are improved as are the skidding
and shifting sounds but this maybe should have been marketed as an
update not a new game. I dont personally care I would buy it either
way as would a majority of the people in this group (I think), it is
just the borderline crowd might not feel it is worth the investment.
Is the windsheild area smaller? I cant really tell but it does seem
you are boxed in a little more. Overall I think the graphics are
becoming a little dated but I know a 3dfx upgrade could smooth things
out and kill the annoying little jaggies. Im not holding my breath for
that one though, seeing as Sierra is behind the Verite. The one post I
have seen regarding the Rendition Ready Nascar2 didnt sound to
promising so maybe no 3D is good 3D. Back to racing.

Mike Schreine

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by Mike Schreine » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> Nothing worked properly in DOS and I tried a lot of things. Out of
> desperation I tried to run from a shortcut in Win95 and voila! all is
> good! The frame rate is fine with everything on and 16/4 cars drawn, I
> would estimate 20fps. The graphics are improved as are the skidding
> and shifting sounds but this maybe should have been marketed as an
> update not a new game. I dont personally care I would buy it either
> way as would a majority of the people in this group (I think), it is
> just the borderline crowd might not feel it is worth the investment.
> Is the windsheild area smaller? I cant really tell but it does seem
> you are boxed in a little more. Overall I think the graphics are
> becoming a little dated but I know a 3dfx upgrade could smooth things
> out and kill the annoying little jaggies. Im not holding my breath for
> that one though, seeing as Sierra is behind the Verite. The one post I
> have seen regarding the Rendition Ready Nascar2 didnt sound to
> promising so maybe no 3D is good 3D. Back to racing.

20fps is GOOD?????

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Robert Mull

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by Robert Mull » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00



>> Nothing worked properly in DOS and I tried a lot of things. Out of
>> desperation I tried to run from a shortcut in Win95 and voila! all is
>> good! The frame rate is fine with everything on and 16/4 cars drawn, I
>> would estimate 20fps. The graphics are improved as are the skidding
>> and shifting sounds but this maybe should have been marketed as an
>> update not a new game. I dont personally care I would buy it either
>> way as would a majority of the people in this group (I think), it is
>> just the borderline crowd might not feel it is worth the investment.
>> Is the windsheild area smaller? I cant really tell but it does seem
>> you are boxed in a little more. Overall I think the graphics are
>> becoming a little dated but I know a 3dfx upgrade could smooth things
>> out and kill the annoying little jaggies. Im not holding my breath for
>> that one though, seeing as Sierra is behind the Verite. The one post I
>> have seen regarding the Rendition Ready Nascar2 didnt sound to
>> promising so maybe no 3D is good 3D. Back to racing.
>20fps is GOOD?????
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20 fps with everything on and no 3D acceleration is. I was hoping for
more and think that they could tweak the engine a bit but compared to
the original it is much more fluid.
adleves..

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by adleves.. » Sat, 07 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Hi Robert,
     That's really weird.  I've run it with joysticks, steering wheels,
etc and no problem.  I'll have John take a look at this and see if
anything jumps out.

Adam
Papyrus

schm..

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by schm.. » Sun, 08 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Other than having a soundcard volume problem, NASCAR 2 installed fine
for me. I used the windows full install option.

Any ideas why the volume is so low ? I have a soundblaster 16 and have
not had this problem before with any other programs including the
original NASCAR

Tom Warde

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by Tom Warde » Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I think some people have the Win95 Version and some have the MS-DOS
verson.  Look on your box, it will tell you.

Tom Wardell
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171/index.html



>OK so its out today and I got my copy and installed it. Thats the good
>news. Bad news is it wont recognise the same steering wheel controller
>that the demo did, it does weird things in the seetings, and it is
>constantly locking up on my system. I have managed to get in car twice
>by using the keyboard controls but both times it locked up when I
>returned to the menu. Other times it locked up before I could even get
>in the car. When I went to change the graphics settings last time it
>showed like 5246 cars drawn forward 0 cars drawn back min frame rate 0
>max framerate of 5246. As soon as I clicked on the arrows to change
>them they switched to real world numbers. As soon as I exited bam
>lockup. The next time I got in the sound was turned all the way down,
>so I turned it up bam lockup. WTF?  I am a realistic person. No first
>run software is going to be bug free but this is silly. I have some
>other minor problems but unless I can get these big ones figured out,
>the whole package is going back to EB.  I know its a litlle bit early
>to lament the downfall of Papyrus but there last 2 full releases have
>been bug-ridden works in progress. You cant stay at the top with those
>kinds of games. I am off in search of solutions, any sage advice would
>be appreciated.
>System:
>P5-166 PCChips M525 Mobo with 256k cache, 32megs EDO ram, STB
>Lightspeed 128 2.25m, Diamond Monster 3D, SB AWE 32 original ver(not
>PnP), West Dig Caviar 1600, Sony 4x CD, Thrustmaster ACM gamecard,
>and Thrustmaster T1 (modified).

Robert Johnso

Nascar2 good news/bad news

by Robert Johnso » Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:00:00



And then again, maybe not.  Just because the store said it is a Win95 game,
doesn't mean it is.  You in a computer store and need help with a game?
Best bet is to find a kid, or the youngest employee in the store and ask
them about it.  Chances are that they are waiting on, or already own the
game in question. The local Best Buy here has some real winners.  But
anyway.....  MY box says you need either MSDOS 5.0 or Win95.  Just the one
version, it's just that this one will run from Win95 without you having to
go into DOS mode first.


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