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> The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much
> better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than the
> NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say
> this from an informed point of view).  This is basically the same wheel
> as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct has
> them for only $24.99 -- check it out at:

> http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp

> Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a second
> wheel, for that matter).  Those of you who have been wanting a wheel
> but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this.

> FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good
> customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their shipping.

> -- JB

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

> This is interesting.  We sold three of these wheels and all three were
> returned.  The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the
wheel
> after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter.  The
sloppiness I
> can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the
assembly
> coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through
successive
> bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic.  The jitter seems to occur when a
sound
> card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7.
> Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped.  The wheel seems stable and
happy
> enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters.
> Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got)
> indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values
jump
> around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks
like an
> average, crappy, noisy pot.  Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels
before
> without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog
> gameports.

> I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this
wheel on,
> what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX.  It's been a
while, but
> if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6.
Any
> info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

>                         Doug

> PS: The pedals are OK.  They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I
still
> haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my
trusty old
> T2 pedals.

> > The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much
> > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than
the
> > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say
> > this from an informed point of view).  This is basically the same
wheel
> > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct
has
> > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at:

> > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp

> > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a
second
> > wheel, for that matter).  Those of you who have been wanting a wheel
> > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this.

> > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good
> > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their
shipping.

> > -- JB

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.

> Doug,

> I'm currently using the Super Sport with my "slow" computer for head-to-
> head action with Viper Racing and DTR -- the system is an AMD K6-266
> with Windows 98, DirectX 7 (not sure if I've upgraded to 7a yet), and a
> generic Soundblaster-compatible sound card.  I've also used it on my
> "fast" system, which is equipped with a PDPI L4 digital game port, but
> I don't know if I had DX7 installed at the time.

> The Super Sport's wheel and steering shaft does "wobble" a bit compared
> to my TSW and TSW2 rigs, but I think it seems more solid than my NASCAR
> Pro wheel.  Frankly, after using the TSW products, ALL plastic wheels
> seem somewhat "fragile" to me, but I haven't found the Super Sport to
> be any worse than the Mad Catz Andretti wheel, the Logitech Wingman, or
> the ACT Labs RS wheels.

> The output is pretty solid on my Super Sport wheel, even with a generic
> sound card game port -- I will try to hook it up to my other computer
> sometime this weekend to try to shed some light on the compatibility
> issue with digital game ports and DX7.  I'll let you know what I find
> on thst.

> Hope this helps a bit.

> -- JB

> > This is interesting.  We sold three of these wheels and all three were
> > returned.  The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the
> wheel
> > after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter.  The
> sloppiness I
> > can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the
> assembly
> > coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through
> successive
> > bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic.  The jitter seems to occur when a
> sound
> > card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7.
> > Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped.  The wheel seems stable and
> happy
> > enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters.
> > Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got)
> > indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values
> jump
> > around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks
> like an
> > average, crappy, noisy pot.  Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels
> before
> > without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog
> > gameports.

> > I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this
> wheel on,
> > what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX.  It's been a
> while, but
> > if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6.
> Any
> > info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

> >                         Doug

> > PS: The pedals are OK.  They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I
> still
> > haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my
> trusty old
> > T2 pedals.

> > > The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much
> > > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than
> the
> > > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say
> > > this from an informed point of view).  This is basically the same
> wheel
> > > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct
> has
> > > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at:

> > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp

> > > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a
> second
> > > wheel, for that matter).  Those of you who have been wanting a wheel
> > > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this.

> > > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good
> > > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their
> shipping.

> > > -- JB

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

>This is interesting.  We sold three of these wheels and all three were
>returned.  The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the wheel
>after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter.  The sloppiness
I
>can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the assembly
>coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through successive
>bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic.  The jitter seems to occur when a sound
>card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7.
>Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped.  The wheel seems stable and happy
>enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters.
>Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got)
>indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values jump
>around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks like an
>average, crappy, noisy pot.  Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels before
>without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog
>gameports.

>I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this wheel on,
>what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX.  It's been a while, but
>if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6.  Any
>info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

>                        Doug

>PS: The pedals are OK.  They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I still
>haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my trusty
old
>T2 pedals.

>> The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much
>> better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than the
>> NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say
>> this from an informed point of view).  This is basically the same wheel
>> as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct has
>> them for only $24.99 -- check it out at:

>> http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp

>> Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a second
>> wheel, for that matter).  Those of you who have been wanting a wheel
>> but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this.

>> FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good
>> customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their shipping.

>> -- JB

>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.

> Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

>         Doug

> > Doug,

> > I'm currently using the Super Sport with my "slow" computer for
head-to-
> > head action with Viper Racing and DTR -- the system is an AMD K6-266
> > with Windows 98, DirectX 7 (not sure if I've upgraded to 7a yet),
and a
> > generic Soundblaster-compatible sound card.  I've also used it on my
> > "fast" system, which is equipped with a PDPI L4 digital game port,
but
> > I don't know if I had DX7 installed at the time.

> > The Super Sport's wheel and steering shaft does "wobble" a bit
compared
> > to my TSW and TSW2 rigs, but I think it seems more solid than my
NASCAR
> > Pro wheel.  Frankly, after using the TSW products, ALL plastic
wheels
> > seem somewhat "fragile" to me, but I haven't found the Super Sport
to
> > be any worse than the Mad Catz Andretti wheel, the Logitech
Wingman, or
> > the ACT Labs RS wheels.

> > The output is pretty solid on my Super Sport wheel, even with a
generic
> > sound card game port -- I will try to hook it up to my other
computer
> > sometime this weekend to try to shed some light on the compatibility
> > issue with digital game ports and DX7.  I'll let you know what I
find
> > on thst.

> > Hope this helps a bit.

> > -- JB

> > > This is interesting.  We sold three of these wheels and all three
were
> > > returned.  The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the
> > wheel
> > > after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter.  The
> > sloppiness I
> > > can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the
> > assembly
> > > coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through
> > successive
> > > bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic.  The jitter seems to occur when
a
> > sound
> > > card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7.
> > > Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped.  The wheel seems stable and
> > happy
> > > enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or
jitters.
> > > Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've
got)
> > > indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the
values
> > jump
> > > around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks
> > like an
> > > average, crappy, noisy pot.  Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels
> > before
> > > without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with
analog
> > > gameports.

> > > I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this
> > wheel on,
> > > what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX.  It's been a
> > while, but
> > > if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with
DirectX6.
> > Any
> > > info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

> > >                         Doug

> > > PS: The pedals are OK.  They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but
I
> > still
> > > haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my
> > trusty old
> > > T2 pedals.

> > > > The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel --
much
> > > > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package
than
> > the
> > > > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I
can say
> > > > this from an informed point of view).  This is basically the
same
> > wheel
> > > > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger
Direct
> > has
> > > > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at:

> > > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp

> > > > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a
> > second
> > > > wheel, for that matter).  Those of you who have been wanting a
wheel
> > > > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this.

> > > > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good
> > > > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their
> > shipping.

> > > > -- JB

> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > > Before you buy.

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.