rec.autos.simulators

NT's a BEEEYATCH

Douglas Elliso

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Douglas Elliso » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00

OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you
know)

SO...GPL Doesn't work.

I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it doesn't
work in NT)

Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the
line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT.

F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something...

AMD K6^2 300
128mb Ram
Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb)

Cheers
Doug

Rober

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Rober » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00

May I suggest you set up yourself a dual boot machine !

You'd have to create two partitions, install 95/98 first, than NT.  You
could then play all the games, plus have the stability and performance for
your work programs.

Robert
Hull, Qubec

^Frett

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by ^Frett » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00

You read my mind Robert <g>

> May I suggest you set up yourself a dual boot machine !

> You'd have to create two partitions, install 95/98 first, than NT.  You
> could then play all the games, plus have the stability and performance for
> your work programs.

> Robert
> Hull, Qubec

Borut Srebotni

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Borut Srebotni » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00

GPL 1.1 ( with patch ) is supposed to run on Win NT 5.0 ( not sure about
4.0 ). I'm building a dual celeron system as ( GPL with 1.1 patch ) it will
support dual processor systems. I just need to get that win2000 thing :-)

Borut


Steve Pritcha

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Steve Pritcha » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00

Doug, The best thing to do is simply dual boot your machine between NT and
Win95/8.  NT isn't great at games because the driver support just isn't
there.  The other advantage is that if you put the NT stuff on an NTFS
disk, then Win95/8 will not see it, and so won't be able to put any dodgy
software into your NT installation (which I am assuming you use for work).

Hope this helps.

Steve.



> OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you
> know)

> SO...GPL Doesn't work.

> I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it
> doesn't
> work in NT)

> Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the
> line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT.

> F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something...

> AMD K6^2 300
> 128mb Ram
> Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb)

> Cheers
> Doug

Kilgore Tro

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Kilgore Tro » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00



>Doug, The best thing to do is simply dual boot your machine between NT and
>Win95/8.  NT isn't great at games because the driver support just isn't
>there.  The other advantage is that if you put the NT stuff on an NTFS
>disk, then Win95/8 will not see it, and so won't be able to put any dodgy
>software into your NT installation (which I am assuming you use for work).

>Hope this helps.

>Steve.



Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this,
or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a
url link.  thanks guys.

>> OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you
>> know)

>> SO...GPL Doesn't work.

>> I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it
>> doesn't
>> work in NT)

>> Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the
>> line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT.

>> F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something...

>> AMD K6^2 300
>> 128mb Ram
>> Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb)

>> Cheers
>> Doug

Daxe Rexfor

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Daxe Rexfor » Sun, 09 May 1999 04:00:00


<snip>

Softimage isn't exactly gonna scream on that machine, either....

~dx

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Mark C Dod

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Mark C Dod » Mon, 10 May 1999 04:00:00

GP2 Probably won't work because it directly accesses the hardware and NT DOS
boxes don;t like that. Anything that needs Direct X is a non no so that covers
about 99% of the modern sims. Can't think of anything really. Why don't don't
you dual boot the PC?

> OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you
> know)

> SO...GPL Doesn't work.

> I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it doesn't
> work in NT)

> Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the
> line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT.

> F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something...

> AMD K6^2 300
> 128mb Ram
> Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb)

> Cheers
> Doug

Jo

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Jo » Mon, 10 May 1999 04:00:00

Hi

my suggestion is different:
-create one partition with the size for nt.
-install nt
-use the drive manager to create another primary partition
 (nt allows the creation, w95/98 will use it)
-mark the 2nd primary partition as active
-reboot and install 95/98 on the 2nd primary partition

the only drawback is, that you have to use fdisk(98/98)
and the nt drive manager to switch between the primary
partitions. (a boot manager may fix this).

only if nt & 95/98 are on different partitions you can use ntfs
for nt and/or have "real" stability.

Joachim



Steve Pritcha

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Steve Pritcha » Mon, 10 May 1999 04:00:00


> Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this,
> or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a
> url link.  thanks guys.

Its a while since I've done it, but if you already have a DOS option in
your NT boot menu, then you can install Win95 from there, and it's fine.  
I think it's easeir to install Win95 first, then NT.

Having said that, I've a feeling that Win95/98 knows about NT, and might
put itself in the boot menu on an NT box anyways.

Unless somebody can come up with a definitive answer, the best bet might
be to take a backup, and then just try it.

Hope this helps.

Steve.

Trip

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Trip » Mon, 10 May 1999 04:00:00

Having done a number of dual boot rigs here at work, the solution I've
found to work best is this:

Starting with a clean hard drive, boot from the NT CDROM (yes, it's
bootable) then create a 4 Gig or smaller partition on the drive to hold
NT. You can't install NT to any partition or volume larger than 4 Gig,
so start there. Once NT is installed and working, you can if you like
increase the size of its partition using Partition Magic.

Boot with the 98 boot floppy and create a primary partition and install
98 to it. Once that's done, the machine will always boot to 98, until...

...you download the Ranish Partition manager utility from the following
URL:

http://www.lester.co.uk/ranish/part/

You'll find a nifty boot menu that allows you to boot from either
partition. Best of all, it installs in the boot record, and doesn't need
a partition of its own.

Trips



> > Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this,
> > or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a
> > url link.  thanks guys.

> Its a while since I've done it, but if you already have a DOS option in
> your NT boot menu, then you can install Win95 from there, and it's fine.
> I think it's easeir to install Win95 first, then NT.

> Having said that, I've a feeling that Win95/98 knows about NT, and might
> put itself in the boot menu on an NT box anyways.

> Unless somebody can come up with a definitive answer, the best bet might
> be to take a backup, and then just try it.

> Hope this helps.

> Steve.

Ding

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Ding » Mon, 10 May 1999 04:00:00

While most of what is written below holds true, NT can in fact be installed
on a partition of virtually unlimitted size.  However the boot CD can not
make a partition of greater that 4 GB.

also, as for downloading a file to make any OS the boot os that is
uneccesary also.

When NT is installed a file (boot.ini) is created and editing this will
choose which OS is the boot OS.

The help files are pretty good about this


> Having done a number of dual boot rigs here at work, the solution I've
> found to work best is this:

> Starting with a clean hard drive, boot from the NT CDROM (yes, it's
> bootable) then create a 4 Gig or smaller partition on the drive to hold
> NT. You can't install NT to any partition or volume larger than 4 Gig,
> so start there. Once NT is installed and working, you can if you like
> increase the size of its partition using Partition Magic.

> Boot with the 98 boot floppy and create a primary partition and install
> 98 to it. Once that's done, the machine will always boot to 98, until...

> ...you download the Ranish Partition manager utility from the following
> URL:

> http://www.lester.co.uk/ranish/part/

> You'll find a nifty boot menu that allows you to boot from either
> partition. Best of all, it installs in the boot record, and doesn't need
> a partition of its own.

> Trips



> > > Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this,
> > > or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a
> > > url link.  thanks guys.

> > Its a while since I've done it, but if you already have a DOS option in
> > your NT boot menu, then you can install Win95 from there, and it's fine.
> > I think it's easeir to install Win95 first, then NT.

> > Having said that, I've a feeling that Win95/98 knows about NT, and might
> > put itself in the boot menu on an NT box anyways.

> > Unless somebody can come up with a definitive answer, the best bet might
> > be to take a backup, and then just try it.

> > Hope this helps.

> > Steve.

Trip

NT's a BEEEYATCH

by Trip » Mon, 10 May 1999 04:00:00


> While most of what is written below holds true, NT can in fact be installed
> on a partition of virtually unlimitted size.  However the boot CD can not
> make a partition of greater that 4 GB.

True, NT can be installed to a pre-existing NTFS partition of any size,
I assumed that a NTFS partitioon wasn't already in place.

Absolutely, but I find it a LOT easier to choose the boot OS with a
single keystroke at boot time than to edit a file every time I want to
change it...

Your mileage may vary...

Trips


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