rec.autos.simulators

I am getting a little frustrated with MGPRS2 and a simple question that no
one seems to want to help me out.

The other day, I was racing online with MGPRS2 and the game service, and
someone accused of being a "cheat". I did not exactly know what he( or she )
was referring to. I have asked several times in the chat room of the game
service, what "cheat" means, but no one answers.

Is there a way to alter the car to improve performance with a computer trick
vis a vis other online players? some players nickname have in their label
"cheat". What does this mean?

Thanks,
Gostal

Cheat is an English word that means to do something "against the law".  Or
as cheating on your wife (having relations with another women).

In the case of racing simulators, cheating means altering the game to suit
yourself and give yourself an advantage over the others.  Some cheats are
made in the game.  Many arcade titles have this kind of cheats (more
powerful cars, bonus tracks, etc..).  You normally need to enter a code to
do so.

In other case, people will hack or modify certain files to cheat.  For
online racing, it is considered imm***and unsportsmanship to cheat.  You
will have no respect by the other drivers if you do so.  Online racing
services have some good anti-cheating software.  The NROS is anti-cheat
because of a great checksum program made by a Papyrus employee.  Others like
GPL are tight on the cheating, but I can tell  you it's possible
unfortunately.

As for MGPRS2, some people it seems discovered a failure in the program
(which demonstrate the crapiness of Ubisoft's online multiplayer racing).

-- Heh
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

The only thing I can think of is the following: maybe you were using
some of the driving aids (such as traction control and abs brakes).
Those can make a lot of difference when you play vs someone who doesn,t
use them. In that case, I don't see why the person would complain... you
can start a session without those aids (in the option menu for the
session).

I played this game online a few months ago, and it's not worth the
effort. The oppenents' car are always on the ideal racing line,
irrespective of the fact that the other driver might not be there in
reality (ie on his computer, his car is not at the same spot on the
track as where you see it on your pc). Opponent speeds are not
consistent. One second, he looks like he's stopped, the other he's going
to warp speed. If you like online racing, better stick to GPL and NROS.

Philster

Philster

That's wrong. There is a power editor available and the "cheat" word
indicates someone has adjusted the cars power rating.

At least people can get through a race without being disconnected for
breathing too hard.

David G Fisher

Please...get your facts straight. There's a perfomance editor
available that allows you to change the power values for each team up
to match the best team's values. Many people who wants to drive
another car than, say a Williams use it, otherwise they would be in a
disadvantage.
Gameservice however does not know this and is labeling everyone with
'cheat' who did so. Actually this will also happen to players who did
not alter their performance but choosed to join a session with someone
who did. Nothing to worry about.

--Tel

Thanks guys, sorry.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I would define cheating as follows:
Making internal changes at the program to achieve an advantage.
Also using unplanned options (like low-riding or trail-riding in GPL)
is seen as cheating, even if the programm-code wasn't changed at all.

Jens

BTW: Where is MGPRS2-online racing?

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:06:00 -0400, "Gostal Arcelin"

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I must disagree.
I can't see "low-rider" setups as cheating. There's always some people
whining
about the riding height, that happened already in GP2. If you people can't
control that car with extremely stiff suspension, don't call others
cheaters,
call yourselfs "not talented". in RL F1 teams will do everything that is
allowed
by options/rules to find more speed AND they use the lowest possible riding
height also in RL, just like GPL drivers...

When you can setup low riding height in the games own options, I really
can't see that as cheating. In my opinion, cheating is changing the original
code or separate program which will help you in your gameplay and I
haven't seen cheating in GPL yet, but believe me that do happen a lot in
Quake for example.