rec.autos.simulators

> First of all, I had to convince my force-feedback wheel (LWFF) to use
> different axes for brake and throttle instead of sharing one. (See the
> thread - LWFF - Separate axes)

> Now, finally I am ready to give it a try.

> Well after just a few laps at Silverstone, I am not up to my personal
> best (1:32.55), but did manage a 1:33.36, not bad.

> I will admit it is awkward at first, and I have by no means mastered
it
> yet. But the thing I like about it most is, it gives you the ability
to
> more smoothly transition from brakes to gas coming out of corners.

> As any good GPLer knows, the speed you come out of corners is much
more
> important than the speed you went in at.

> As a one-footed driver, you have to stop in a straight line as much as
> possible, sort of slide through without any throttle, then feed the
gas
> back on. In the heat of the moment, it is all too easy to jam the gas
> back on too abruptly, and induce wheel spin out of the rear end. This
> is the last thing you want in a corner you are already sliding in.

> Not to mention, the weight transfer. When you are under braking, the
> front tires are heavily loaded. If you suddenly lift off the brakes
and
> jam on the gas, you are causing a significant weight transfer to the
> back end, again, just at the worst moment.

> With the two-footed approach, you can manage you rate of braking with
> one foot, and help keep your car stable through the corner by leaving
> slight braking pressure (trail-braking) on as you feed the gas back
on.
> Also, you can keep your revs up.

> The result seems to be a much more smooth transition from flat out,
> through braking, turning in with gradually reduced braking, easing gas
> back on with trail braking, and flat out again. The chassis is not
> subject to *** jerks in mid-corner. And my LWFF is not "bucking"
> nearly as much.

> This is only possible with the high-fidelity physics model of GPL. You
> might find it of little benefit in "lighter" sims. But in GPL, if you
> ask around, a lot of the consistently fast drivers (not necessarily
hot-
> lappers) use two feet.

> Give it a try.

> Cheers, wtonsmann

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Before you buy.

> Having heard about trail-braking, and always anxious to shave another
> second off, I decided to give it a try.

> First of all, I had to convince my force-feedback wheel (LWFF) to use
> different axes for brake and throttle instead of sharing one. (See the
> thread - LWFF - Separate axes)

> Now, finally I am ready to give it a try.

> Well after just a few laps at Silverstone, I am not up to my personal
> best (1:32.55), but did manage a 1:33.36, not bad.

> I will admit it is awkward at first, and I have by no means mastered it
> yet. But the thing I like about it most is, it gives you the ability to
> more smoothly transition from brakes to gas coming out of corners.

> As any good GPLer knows, the speed you come out of corners is much more
> important than the speed you went in at.

> As a one-footed driver, you have to stop in a straight line as much as
> possible, sort of slide through without any throttle, then feed the gas
> back on. In the heat of the moment, it is all too easy to jam the gas
> back on too abruptly, and induce wheel spin out of the rear end. This
> is the last thing you want in a corner you are already sliding in.

> Not to mention, the weight transfer. When you are under braking, the
> front tires are heavily loaded. If you suddenly lift off the brakes and
> jam on the gas, you are causing a significant weight transfer to the
> back end, again, just at the worst moment.

> With the two-footed approach, you can manage you rate of braking with
> one foot, and help keep your car stable through the corner by leaving
> slight braking pressure (trail-braking) on as you feed the gas back on.
> Also, you can keep your revs up.

> The result seems to be a much more smooth transition from flat out,
> through braking, turning in with gradually reduced braking, easing gas
> back on with trail braking, and flat out again. The chassis is not
> subject to *** jerks in mid-corner. And my LWFF is not "bucking"
> nearly as much.

> This is only possible with the high-fidelity physics model of GPL. You
> might find it of little benefit in "lighter" sims. But in GPL, if you
> ask around, a lot of the consistently fast drivers (not necessarily hot-
> lappers) use two feet.

> Give it a try.

> Cheers, wtonsmann

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Before you buy.

> You can trail-brake with single axis. If your feet are quick and smooth
> enough there really isn't much difference between using dual or single
> axis. Having a good neutral setup helps as well.

> your joking, right?

> Rik Anthrax
>            -
>      -
> "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"
> "Cato was right."

> there really isn't much difference between using dual or single
> > axis.

> when i changed from single to dual axis, the difference was night and day.
> you must have something wrong with your input device.

> Rik Anthrax
>            -
>      -
> "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"
> "Cato was right."