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Rather Be At The Glen?

Stephen Smit

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Stephen Smit » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 01:42:59

Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice at
the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the
Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall colors!
Dave Henri

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Dave Henri » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 01:51:37

  Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full on natural
terrain circuit.  However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen for GPL
would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hint track
makers)
dave henrie

Jan Verschuere

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 01:58:57

I don't know Steve... looks like it makes the drivers work for their money.
That can't be a bad thing. Wouldn't go as far as call it scenic though. ;-)

Jan.
=---
"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

Ed Solhei

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Ed Solhei » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 02:51:37

Althought I did not waste my time watching yet another boring F1 session...
I must agree that The Glen would have been such nicer place to race..
Especially in the fall - my fav. time of the year.

--
ed_

Stephen Smith <> skrev i

Philip D'Amat

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Philip D'Amat » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 03:08:23

To play Devil's advocate, I like most of the Indy circuit.  Parts of the infield don't seem to flow (to me), but I really like the banking turn leading to the straight and I do like the first and last part of the infield - there's a section in the middle that seems to break up the rythm though.  The oval banking section and the long straight are a nice feature that seems to remind me of Monza for some reason.  Speedvision also shows a retrospective of the U.S. GP, and aside from financial issues, and a bad atmosphere of "hooliganism" for the infield fans, the Glen is run during a rainy, damp, chilly time of year for the NE.  As they say it, when the weather was good, there were few tracks that could match the splendor of the scenery at the Glen, but then they cut to scenes from yesteryear's races run in the rain.  Not so good for the fans or the drivers.  Like Sam Posey and Bob Varsha, I do wonder if Road America would be a better addition to the series though.

--

Philip D'Amato


> Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice at
> the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the
> Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall colors!

Stephen Smit

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Stephen Smit » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 04:36:46

Phil,

Indy is a 'technical' track, actually quite demanding...and more suited to
Coulthard's usual cool style than Alesi's pyrotechnics, altho the reverse
was obviously true today.  There's a definite rhythm to the infield,
particularly the first few turns, but those last coupla hairpins look
tighter than Monaco's Station.  The Big Q is, of course...why?  Why did they
feel constrained to make them so tight?  There was talk last year of easing
the radii, but obviously they di'n't.

Too bad EA didn't make their release deadline (Sept. 25) for this year's US
GP; "F1 2001" might have cashed in on the interest spike.  Oh well, maybe
next year (or the year after, given sims' usual product cycle).

The weather at the Glen this year would have been perfect; a coupla deg.
warmer than Indy; an achingly bright, cloudless fall day (I live abt. an
hour away).  Of course, the Glen was traditionally a week or so later...and
more often than not, either boiling hot or--more ususally--freezing cold.

I kinda liked The Bog.  Great place for Rolling Stone-type interviews (gems
from the spectators, not the performers).

As much as I love Elkhart, it's obvious that it's way too dangerous for
Bernie to give it his blessing as a F1 track.  About $30 million short of a
full FIA sanction...and one Interstate exit short of a profitable crowd.

--Steve


To play Devil's advocate, I like most of the Indy circuit.  Parts of the
infield don't seem to flow (to me), but I really like the banking turn
leading to the straight and I do like the first and last part of the
infield - there's a section in the middle that seems to break up the rythm
though.  The oval banking section and the long straight are a nice feature
that seems to remind me of Monza for some reason.  Speedvision also shows a
retrospective of the U.S. GP, and aside from financial issues, and a bad
atmosphere of "hooliganism" for the infield fans, the Glen is run during a
rainy, damp, chilly time of year for the NE.  As they say it, when the
weather was good, there were few tracks that could match the splendor of the
scenery at the Glen, but then they cut to scenes from yesteryear's races run
in the rain.  Not so good for the fans or the drivers.  Like Sam Posey and
Bob Varsha, I do wonder if Road America would be a better addition to the
series though.

--

Philip D'Amato


Steve Blankenshi

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Steve Blankenshi » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 08:33:01

Well, there's always Road Atlanta!  May not be F1, but I'm really looking forward to Petit LeMans next weekend.  Hope this gorgeous
weather hold up for another week...

Steve B.

<snip>

Ed Solhei

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Ed Solhei » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 10:00:10

*Now* I am envious.

--
ed_

Steve Blankenship said:

Michael Barlo

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Michael Barlo » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:21:29


    !!I second that motion!!  last I knew someone was working on just that.
Unfortunatly I also heard that he stoped, Though I don't know how true that
is.  With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the
addition of the boot :-)  Be also nice to have it for N4!   All though I
think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still think it
would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-)

--
Michael A. Barlow
Head of Marketing
FILSCA (www.filsca.com)



> > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice
> at
> > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the
> > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall
> colors!

Dave Henri

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Dave Henri » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:46:59

  Jan at the Uspits has a one lap video of the N4 stocker running around
Monaco.  If he can negotiate that *** of a track, WG & the boot shouldn't
be a problem.  :)
  Just don't know when he and Noonan will complete their work.
dave henrie



> >   Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full on
natural
> > terrain circuit.  However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen for
> GPL
> > would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hint
track
> > makers)
> > dave henrie

>     !!I second that motion!!  last I knew someone was working on just
that.
> Unfortunatly I also heard that he stoped, Though I don't know how true
that
> is.  With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the
> addition of the boot :-)  Be also nice to have it for N4!   All though I
> think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still think
it
> would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-)

> --
> Michael A. Barlow
> Head of Marketing
> FILSCA (www.filsca.com)



> > > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific
practice
> > at
> > > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the
> > > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall
> > colors!

Terry kan

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Terry kan » Wed, 03 Oct 2001 22:45:14

There might be a Bathurst track for N4 coming up........brakes would be nice




> >   Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full on
natural
> > terrain circuit.  However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen for
> GPL
> > would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hint
track
> > makers)
> > dave henrie

>     !!I second that motion!!  last I knew someone was working on just
that.
> Unfortunatly I also heard that he stoped, Though I don't know how true
that
> is.  With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the
> addition of the boot :-)  Be also nice to have it for N4!   All though I
> think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still think
it
> would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-)

> --
> Michael A. Barlow
> Head of Marketing
> FILSCA (www.filsca.com)



> > > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific
practice
> > at
> > > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the
> > > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall
> > colors!

Don Jenning

Rather Be At The Glen?

by Don Jenning » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:47:34

"Michael Barlow" wrote ...

I'm generally in favor of adding anything having to do with the Glen, it being my "home" course and all.  I have a hard time picturing the boot "enhancing" the N4 experience, you'd kill your brakes and maybe hit 2nd twice, kind of boring I would think.  Definitely would be a cool addition to GPL though.


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