rec.autos.simulators

> Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by
> running dxsetup.exe?

> --
> Joe M.

> > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > systems.

> > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > get TIR to run.

> > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to
> > the routine to install the actual game.

> > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > install?"

> > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how
> > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a patch
> > that addreses this?

> > Thanks!
> > Bert

> Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by
> running dxsetup.exe?

> --
> Joe M.

> > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > systems.

> > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > get TIR to run.

> > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to
> > the routine to install the actual game.

> > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > install?"

> > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how
> > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a patch
> > that addreses this?

> > Thanks!
> > Bert

> Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by
> running dxsetup.exe?

> --
> Joe M.

> > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > systems.

> > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > get TIR to run.

> > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to
> > the routine to install the actual game.

> > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > install?"

> > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how
> > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a patch
> > that addreses this?

> > Thanks!
> > Bert

> I tried your suggestion -- same results.  In fact, clicking on DirectX in
> Control Panel indicates that I still have DirectX 8.2 installed.  Judging
from
> the speed of the DX 8.1b "installation", my guess is that the DX
installation
> routine reads that I have a "newer" version installed and does not install
over
> it.

> So, what version of Direct X does your system indicate you have after
> installing TIR?

> > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it.  Not sure
> > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific?  I'm running WinXP
> > home.

> > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd
by
> > running dxsetup.exe?

> > --
> > Joe M.

> > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > > systems.

> > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > > get TIR to run.

> > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed
to
> > > the routine to install the actual game.

> > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > > install?"

> > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system,
how
> > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a
patch
> > > that addreses this?

> > > Thanks!
> > > Bert

> Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd
by
> running dxsetup.exe?

> --
> Joe M.

> > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > systems.

> > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > get TIR to run.

> > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to
> > the routine to install the actual game.

> > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > install?"

> > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how
> > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a patch
> > that addreses this?

> > Thanks!
> > Bert

> It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX.  I once made
the
> mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my
system,
> I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the
Registry.
> No luck.  My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several
months
> later.

> It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it sounds
> like TIR is the exception.  Too bad; I wanted to try it.  Wish I had
known,
> too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3.  Too late now....

> Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody else's.

> --Steve

> > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it.  Not sure
> > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific?  I'm running WinXP
> > home.

> > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd
> by
> > running dxsetup.exe?

> > --
> > Joe M.

> > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > > systems.

> > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > > get TIR to run.

> > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed
to
> > > the routine to install the actual game.

> > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > > install?"

> > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system,
how
> > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a
patch
> > > that addreses this?

> > > Thanks!
> > > Bert

> > Joe,

> > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX.  I once made
> the
> > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my
> system,
> > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the
> Registry.
> > No luck.  My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several
> months
> > later.

> > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it sounds
> > like TIR is the exception.  Too bad; I wanted to try it.  Wish I had
> known,
> > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3.  Too late now....

> > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody else's.

> > --Steve

> > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it.  Not sure
> > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific?  I'm running WinXP
> > > home.

> > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd
> > by
> > > running dxsetup.exe?

> > > --
> > > Joe M.

> > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > > > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded that
> > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > > > systems.

> > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot
> > > > get TIR to run.

> > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX
> > > > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > > > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to installing
> > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed
> to
> > > > the routine to install the actual game.

> > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the
> > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > > > install?"

> > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system,
> how
> > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a
> patch
> > > > that addreses this?

> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Bert

> > Joe,

> > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX.  I once made
> the
> > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my
> system,
> > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the
> Registry.
> > No luck.  My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several
> months
> > later.

> > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it
sounds
> > like TIR is the exception.  Too bad; I wanted to try it.  Wish I had
> known,
> > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3.  Too late now....

> > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody
else's.

> > --Steve

> > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it.  Not
sure
> > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific?  I'm running
WinXP
> > > home.

> > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR
cd
> > by
> > > running dxsetup.exe?

> > > --
> > > Joe M.

> > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > > > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded
that
> > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > > > systems.

> > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I
cannot
> > > > get TIR to run.

> > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install
DX
> > > > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > > > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to
installing
> > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed
> to
> > > > the routine to install the actual game.

> > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run
the
> > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > > > install?"

> > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system,
> how
> > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a
> patch
> > > > that addreses this?

> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Bert

> You can revert to the original version of DirectX by re-installing Windows
> over the top (98 and ME I think - not sure about XP).

> Andi.

> > Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge.  I wonder of the DX on its
> > CD is also 8.2.  Anybody know?

> > > Joe,

> > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX.  I once made
> > the
> > > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my
> > system,
> > > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the
> > Registry.
> > > No luck.  My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several
> > months
> > > later.

> > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it
> sounds
> > > like TIR is the exception.  Too bad; I wanted to try it.  Wish I had
> > known,
> > > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3.  Too late now....

> > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody
> else's.

> > > --Steve

> > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it.  Not
> sure
> > > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific?  I'm running
> WinXP
> > > > home.

> > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR
> cd
> > > by
> > > > running dxsetup.exe?

> > > > --
> > > > Joe M.

> > > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing
> > > > > (TIR)  requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run.  Others responded
> that
> > > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which
> > > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their
> > > > > systems.

> > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR.  I also have CFS3
> > > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I
> cannot
> > > > > get TIR to run.

> > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install
> DX
> > > > > 8.1b.  If I say NO, the installation routine ends.  So, I said YES.
> > > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little
> > > > > dangerously...)  It still won't install.  When I say YES to
> installing
> > > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed
> > to
> > > > > the routine to install the actual game.

> > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's
> > > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game.  So, I run it.  Now,
> > > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run
> the
> > > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to
> > > > > install?"

> > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system,
> > how
> > > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run?  Is there a
> > patch
> > > > > that addreses this?

> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Bert

> >I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just one
game.
> >What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows?

> You would have to install all the windows updates again.

> >And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires 8.2.

> Directx 8.2 just updates directplay which is just for online play so I
> think it would still run with 8.1b. Another option to try is to look
> for a little prog called "directx buster" which is supposed to be able
> to unsinstall dirctectx and allow you to go back to an older version.

> >Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody
else's.

> Yea, I remember when Directx3 came out and when installing the game
> Close Combat the MS Directx install would overwrite my Diamond Virge
> drivers with some shitty MS ones. That really pissed me off. But this
> problem is a Razorworks/Empire fault as it shouldn't matter if you
> have a newer version of Directx for any game as Directx is always
> backwards compatible.

>> >I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just one
>game.
>> >What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows?

>> You would have to install all the windows updates again.

>> >And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires 8.2.

>> Directx 8.2 just updates directplay which is just for online play so I
>> think it would still run with 8.1b. Another option to try is to look
>> for a little prog called "directx buster" which is supposed to be able
>> to unsinstall dirctectx and allow you to go back to an older version.

> This uninstaller worked for me, got rid of 8.2, installed 8.1b and
> got TIR working.

> http://www.***techhelp.com/html/downloads/download.php/id/6

> >DXBuster didn't work for moi.

> >> >I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just
one
> >game.
> >> >What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows?

> >> You would have to install all the windows updates again.

> >> >And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires
8.2.

> >> Directx 8.2 just updates directplay which is just for online play so I
> >> think it would still run with 8.1b. Another option to try is to look
> >> for a little prog called "directx buster" which is supposed to be able
> >> to unsinstall dirctectx and allow you to go back to an older version.