rec.autos.simulators

>Is it at all possible to get GPL running with a Savage chipset?  S3 has an
>OpenGL ICD, and scores reasonable, if not stellar, numbers on QuakeII
>benchmarks.  The reason I am asking is that I am a notebook-only guy, due
>to the nature of my work.  I need a new notebook within the next half
>year.  S3 is due to release the Savage/MX, a mobile chipset (0.18 micron)
>and it will find its way into notebooks by September.  The only other
>choice for notebook 3D right now is the ATI Rage LT, a fair-to-middling
>chip.  I would dearly love to finally experience GPL, even if only for
>hot-lapping, and was wondering if I should hold out for the Savage
>notebooks.  the only other chip in the near future is the ATI Mobility,
>which falls somewhere between the old Rage and the new Fury in
>performance, but probably doesn't run GPL?

>signed
>Notebook user with serious GPL envy

>Stephen

>Anybody who reads this newsgroup knows I'm not a tech expert. :-/

>But as expensive as top-line laptops are, and as inexpensive as a
>build-it-yourself desktop processor could be, I'd recommend you think in
>that direction instead.  A laptop is not going to give you -- either in
>appearance or performance -- what you could get that way.

>Sorry if that's not an option -- it just seems to me that ANY laptop is
>going to be a big-time compromise.

>That said, let's see what the people who know hardware have to say.  I'm
>sure they'll be weighing in soon.  :-)

>Kurt Steinbock

>>Is it at all possible to get GPL running with a Savage chipset?  S3 has an
>>OpenGL ICD, and scores reasonable, if not stellar, numbers on QuakeII
>>benchmarks.  The reason I am asking is that I am a notebook-only guy, due
>>to the nature of my work.  I need a new notebook within the next half
>>year.  S3 is due to release the Savage/MX, a mobile chipset (0.18 micron)
>>and it will find its way into notebooks by September.  The only other
>>choice for notebook 3D right now is the ATI Rage LT, a fair-to-middling
>>chip.  I would dearly love to finally experience GPL, even if only for
>>hot-lapping, and was wondering if I should hold out for the Savage
>>notebooks.  the only other chip in the near future is the ATI Mobility,
>>which falls somewhere between the old Rage and the new Fury in
>>performance, but probably doesn't run GPL?

>>signed
>>Notebook user with serious GPL envy

>>Stephen

>: Sorry if that's not an option -- it just seems to me that ANY laptop is
>: going to be a big-time compromise.

>I know the compromises... but it's not an option.  It has to be a
>notebook.

>Stephen

>hehe, I could see him lugging a full desktop computer through the airport
>now.  Setting it up on the airplane running off the UPS to do some final
>work.  Did you read his post?

> Is it at all possible to get GPL running with a Savage chipset?  S3 has an
> OpenGL ICD, and scores reasonable, if not stellar, numbers on QuakeII
> benchmarks.  The reason I am asking is that I am a notebook-only guy, due
> to the nature of my work.  I need a new notebook within the next half
> year.  S3 is due to release the Savage/MX, a mobile chipset (0.18 micron)
> and it will find its way into notebooks by September.  The only other
> choice for notebook 3D right now is the ATI Rage LT, a fair-to-middling
> chip.  I would dearly love to finally experience GPL, even if only for
> hot-lapping, and was wondering if I should hold out for the Savage
> notebooks.  the only other chip in the near future is the ATI Mobility,
> which falls somewhere between the old Rage and the new Fury in
> performance, but probably doesn't run GPL?

> Thanks for all the replies.  I have considered the "two-computer" option.
> I have been a notebook user for quite a while now, and I try to stretch
> each one to about three years use, so I tend to aim high when I buy a new
> one.  The magic price point seems to me to be about $3,000.  Knocking
> $1,000 off that to get extra cash for a desktop drops me down to a class
> of notebook that won't do the job (too heavy, too slow).  I also don't
> have (and never felt the need for) a monitor at home, as current TFT
> screens are, for me, great (less eye strain, and pretty nice now in XGA)
> so I would have to scrounge extra cash for that as well.  I can't justify
> $1400 to play a (admittedly real nice) game.

> My question really was just if the Savage OpenGL would work with GPL, as I
> know it will be a compromise (a big one), but I imagine there isn't a lot
> of experience with it, as the favourite sims of this group are mostly
> Glide titles.  Guess I'll stick with GP2.  Or, just to drag this out a bit
> more, does MGPRS support D3D?  Perhaps there still is hope for some sort
> of racing experience for those of us who spend more time on the road than
> at home.  Heck, Mr. Motorsims says they demo AMA Superbike on a ATI
> equipeed Dell notebook...

> Stephen

> :>
> :> Is it at all possible to get GPL running with a Savage chipset?  S3 has
an
> :> OpenGL ICD, and scores reasonable, if not stellar, numbers on QuakeII
> :> benchmarks.  The reason I am asking is that I am a notebook-only guy,
due
> :> to the nature of my work.  I need a new notebook within the next half
> :> year.  S3 is due to release the Savage/MX, a mobile chipset (0.18
micron)
> :> and it will find its way into notebooks by September.  The only other
> :> choice for notebook 3D right now is the ATI Rage LT, a fair-to-middling
> :> chip.  I would dearly love to finally experience GPL, even if only for
> :> hot-lapping, and was wondering if I should hold out for the Savage
> :> notebooks.  the only other chip in the near future is the ATI Mobility,
> :> which falls somewhere between the old Rage and the new Fury in
> :> performance, but probably doesn't run GPL?

> : Honestly, I don't have a clue about the GPL on a Savage S3 (but I have
> : serious doubts), but it sounds like you're about to buy a somewhat
> : pricey laptop to try and run GPL, probably more expensive than you need
> : for your work ?

> : If so, why not buy a lesser laptop, and put the money you save in a
> : stationary PC for GPL use, you can build a pretty inexpensive "GPL PC"
> : these days with the Celerons and V3 2000 cards

> : Or, you could buy a docking station to your laptop maybe, and put in a
> : V2 card, or two, not quite sure about this one though, you'd have to
> : check with 3Dfx and your laptop supplier, but if it works, you'd be set
> : for a good time....

> : --

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