rec.autos.simulators

> Most people around here tend to play PC sims with a wheel but there's the
> odd console gamer.  Forza is pretty good as far as physics go in a console
> game.  I think it probably is a bit more realistic than GT4 though I prefer
> the smoother graphics in GT4.  Richard Burns Rally is probably the only true
> simulation available for any console but as you've discovered, it's
> incredibly difficult without a wheel.

> I haven't tried Enthusia yet, but I've heard it's quite good.

> Most people around here tend to play PC sims with a wheel but there's the
> odd console gamer.  Forza is pretty good as far as physics go in a console
> game.  I think it probably is a bit more realistic than GT4 though I prefer
> the smoother graphics in GT4.  Richard Burns Rally is probably the only true
> simulation available for any console but as you've discovered, it's
> incredibly difficult without a wheel.

> I haven't tried Enthusia yet, but I've heard it's quite good.

> Richard Burns Rally has a pretty steep learning curve. I got
> everything except the last lesson in Rally school where you had to
> finish the learner's course in 1:24 or something like that. I usually
> miss it by a second or so without a wheel and that kind of got
> frustrating so I haven't touched it since.

> Graphics is probably the sole aim of GT4. I tried it at Tech Rec with
> a wheel and found drifting next to impossible even in an NSX-R. Its a
> MR and it can't drift.. there is something wrong with that (STM and
> TCS off of course).

> Enthusia on the other hand I think drifts too much and it can be quite
> annoying.. There are lots more annoyances like Enthupoints where if
> you hit things you lose these darn Enthupoints (very annoying when
> comp constantly bump into you).

> I wish they have Forza on the PC. That way you can get new cars and
> maps easily and update and fix the many shortcomings of the console
> release (bugs in Forza are endless, I wonder if they ever bothered
> testing before releasing).

> So what do you guys play on the PC? The titles I come across here
> seems all GT related.. Way too fast for me. I like to race production
> cars more so than GT because they are more practical and closer to
> reality. GT is fast but if I want fast I go Rally..

>>> New to this newsgroup. Wonder what games you guys are usually
>>> talking about or interested in. I played some of Colin Mcrae 2005
>>> but found it to be too unrealistic and played a little Richard
>>> Burns Rally but found that its way too hard to play without a
>>> wheel. As far as console games go I prefer Forza to GT anyday and
>>> Enthusia is not too bad either.

>> Most people around here tend to play PC sims with a wheel but
>> there's the odd console gamer.  Forza is pretty good as far as
>> physics go in a console game.  I think it probably is a bit more
>> realistic than GT4 though I prefer the smoother graphics in GT4. Richard
>> Burns Rally is probably the only true simulation available
>> for any console but as you've discovered, it's incredibly difficult
>> without a wheel. I haven't tried Enthusia yet, but I've heard it's quite
>> good.

> but I warn you, you need a wheel, and you WILL be ***ed.

> check out the seemingly decent 100-150 dollar value Logitech Driving Force
> pro racing wheel I think it is called?   playstation compatable (if that
> matters) most seem to think it works great (I think that is the consensus).
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/,CRID=2250,CO...

> Chang Liu enlightened us with:
>> I played a bit of Live for Speed Demo. That was kind of funny because
>> when it got boring you just load up the car with 4 people and ram
>> others off road, haha.

>> Richard Burns Rally has a pretty steep learning curve. I got
>> everything except the last lesson in Rally school where you had to
>> finish the learner's course in 1:24 or something like that. I usually
>> miss it by a second or so without a wheel and that kind of got
>> frustrating so I haven't touched it since.

>> Graphics is probably the sole aim of GT4. I tried it at Tech Rec with
>> a wheel and found drifting next to impossible even in an NSX-R. Its a
>> MR and it can't drift.. there is something wrong with that (STM and
>> TCS off of course).

>> Enthusia on the other hand I think drifts too much and it can be quite
>> annoying.. There are lots more annoyances like Enthupoints where if
>> you hit things you lose these darn Enthupoints (very annoying when
>> comp constantly bump into you).

>> I wish they have Forza on the PC. That way you can get new cars and
>> maps easily and update and fix the many shortcomings of the console
>> release (bugs in Forza are endless, I wonder if they ever bothered
>> testing before releasing).

>> So what do you guys play on the PC? The titles I come across here
>> seems all GT related.. Way too fast for me. I like to race production
>> cars more so than GT because they are more practical and closer to
>> reality. GT is fast but if I want fast I go Rally..

>>>> New to this newsgroup. Wonder what games you guys are usually
>>>> talking about or interested in. I played some of Colin Mcrae 2005
>>>> but found it to be too unrealistic and played a little Richard
>>>> Burns Rally but found that its way too hard to play without a
>>>> wheel. As far as console games go I prefer Forza to GT anyday and
>>>> Enthusia is not too bad either.
>>> Most people around here tend to play PC sims with a wheel but
>>> there's the odd console gamer.  Forza is pretty good as far as
>>> physics go in a console game.  I think it probably is a bit more
>>> realistic than GT4 though I prefer the smoother graphics in GT4. Richard
>>> Burns Rally is probably the only true simulation available
>>> for any console but as you've discovered, it's incredibly difficult
>>> without a wheel. I haven't tried Enthusia yet, but I've heard it's quite
>>> good.