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Unresponsive controls

Careful with that axe, Nic

Unresponsive controls

by Careful with that axe, Nic » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:05:40

Well, I though it was just F1CS, but also SBK2001 has fallen victim to
my controller.  It happens about every 5 minutes, more frequent as a
session drags on, that I lose all control of the joystick.  Sometimes
the car/bike will just keep turning after a corner even though I've
straightened out the controller, or sometimes I'll Apply the brakes only
to have the car/bike keep going into the nearby tire
barriar/armco/sandtrap/pedestrian.  I have not bben able to complete 10
laps at Melbourne becuase of this.  Someone told me that it may be
becuase I have another item in the USB ports, but I don't.  The only
item I have plugged in is the joystick.  So what can I do to fix this?
Thanks in advance.

Nick

James Pickar

Unresponsive controls

by James Pickar » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 14:32:24

These are dirty or worn out pots.  Basically, you need to clean them, or if
they are really bad, replace them.

Best bet is to open up the joystick, and then blow all the dust out of
them...   if they still aren't good, get some metholated spirits, or
somthing that will evaporate and not***up the circuitry, and just
droplet it into the pot.  Move it all around to clean it, then let it dry.

At worst, you may need to replace them.

James



Careful with that axe, Nic

Unresponsive controls

by Careful with that axe, Nic » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:39:08

I'll try that.  I wonder why something like this has never happened to my
previous two joysticks?

Nick


> These are dirty or worn out pots.  Basically, you need to clean them, or if
> they are really bad, replace them.

> Best bet is to open up the joystick, and then blow all the dust out of
> them...   if they still aren't good, get some metholated spirits, or
> somthing that will evaporate and not***up the circuitry, and just
> droplet it into the pot.  Move it all around to clean it, then let it dry.

> At worst, you may need to replace them.

> James



> > Well, I though it was just F1CS, but also SBK2001 has fallen victim to
> > my controller.  It happens about every 5 minutes, more frequent as a
> > session drags on, that I lose all control of the joystick.  Sometimes
> > the car/bike will just keep turning after a corner even though I've
> > straightened out the controller, or sometimes I'll Apply the brakes only
> > to have the car/bike keep going into the nearby tire
> > barriar/armco/sandtrap/pedestrian.  I have not bben able to complete 10
> > laps at Melbourne becuase of this.  Someone told me that it may be
> > becuase I have another item in the USB ports, but I don't.  The only
> > item I have plugged in is the joystick.  So what can I do to fix this?
> > Thanks in advance.

> > Nick

Careful with that axe, Nic

Unresponsive controls

by Careful with that axe, Nic » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:51:28

Well, I tried it to no avail.  The stick is only 4 months old so I'm gonna be
real peeved if I already have to replace parts in it!  I might as well get a
new one.

Funny though, how my first 'stick lasted 4 years and I swear it could've lasted
4 more had I taken it a little easier at a certain race at Bristol.  My second
one never died, but it was cheaper just to get a new stick then buy a card so I
could use it on the new 'puter.  And look at where the new stick just got me...

Nick


> These are dirty or worn out pots.  Basically, you need to clean them, or if
> they are really bad, replace them.

> Best bet is to open up the joystick, and then blow all the dust out of
> them...   if they still aren't good, get some metholated spirits, or
> somthing that will evaporate and not***up the circuitry, and just
> droplet it into the pot.  Move it all around to clean it, then let it dry.

> At worst, you may need to replace them.

> James



> > Well, I though it was just F1CS, but also SBK2001 has fallen victim to
> > my controller.  It happens about every 5 minutes, more frequent as a
> > session drags on, that I lose all control of the joystick.  Sometimes
> > the car/bike will just keep turning after a corner even though I've
> > straightened out the controller, or sometimes I'll Apply the brakes only
> > to have the car/bike keep going into the nearby tire
> > barriar/armco/sandtrap/pedestrian.  I have not bben able to complete 10
> > laps at Melbourne becuase of this.  Someone told me that it may be
> > becuase I have another item in the USB ports, but I don't.  The only
> > item I have plugged in is the joystick.  So what can I do to fix this?
> > Thanks in advance.

> > Nick

Dave Henri

Unresponsive controls

by Dave Henri » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:50:50

  Do you have one other joystick connected?  Have you gone to the joystick
control panel(I think dx8 has renamed it '*** options') and removed the
2nd stick.  It is a hassle, but I only have one controller active at
any time.  If I'm flying, I remove the usb wheel and add my joystick.  For
racing I reverse the above.  I still leave the stick and wheel connected to
the back of the cpu box, but I only let windows 'see' one of them.  If not,
at least
make sure the wheel or joystick you ARE using is listed as the #1 device
on the controllers id tab.
dave henrie


Careful with that axe, Nic

Unresponsive controls

by Careful with that axe, Nic » Sat, 06 Jan 2001 03:53:41

I don't have anything else hooked up, well maybe besides my mouse, but still.
I popped open the stick last night, cleaned out the dust and some debris out of
the sticky gunk,played SCGT for a half an hour with no problems, but when I
cranked up SBK2001 again, it happened.  So I'm beggining to think that there is
something wrong with the EA Sports games.

I checked the ea sports help file and it said for my particular joystick, I
shoud have it setup in the game controller menu as a Thrustmaster FCS, will
that help and how do I do that?

Nick


>   Do you have one other joystick connected?  Have you gone to the joystick
> control panel(I think dx8 has renamed it '*** options') and removed the
> 2nd stick.  It is a hassle, but I only have one controller active at
> any time.  If I'm flying, I remove the usb wheel and add my joystick.  For
> racing I reverse the above.  I still leave the stick and wheel connected to
> the back of the cpu box, but I only let windows 'see' one of them.  If not,
> at least
> make sure the wheel or joystick you ARE using is listed as the #1 device
> on the controllers id tab.
> dave henrie


> > Well, I though it was just F1CS, but also SBK2001 has fallen victim to
> > my controller.  It happens about every 5 minutes, more frequent as a
> > session drags on, that I lose all control of the joystick.  Sometimes
> > the car/bike will just keep turning after a corner even though I've
> > straightened out the controller, or sometimes I'll Apply the brakes only
> > to have the car/bike keep going into the nearby tire
> > barriar/armco/sandtrap/pedestrian.  I have not bben able to complete 10
> > laps at Melbourne becuase of this.  Someone told me that it may be
> > becuase I have another item in the USB ports, but I don't.  The only
> > item I have plugged in is the joystick.  So what can I do to fix this?
> > Thanks in advance.

> > Nick

Dave Henri

Unresponsive controls

by Dave Henri » Sat, 06 Jan 2001 10:25:35

What joystick do you have?   Here is the method to choose sticks.
clik on start\settings\control panel.  then you will see a box full of
icons.  Choose the game controller or joystick controller icon.(the name has
changed)
once that window opens, you'll see whatever joystick you have listed, or
rather whatever joystick YOU told windows you have.
  So if you need to mimic the Thrustmaster FCS, you are in luck.   I used to
have one of those...First remove whatever joystick you have selected.  Then
press the add button(does this sound familiar? :>  )     scroll down the
list and near the bottom you 'should' see a listing for Thrustmaster Flight
Control System.   Clik on that line and press the add button.
  In a few moments the TM FCS should be shown on your game controllers
window.  It should say ok.  then choose properties and calibrate your stick
so that you can test all the buttons and hat switches and the throw of the
stick it self(up/down/left/right/all the corners.)  If everything looks good
press the apply or ok button.  At the top is a controller id tab. clik on
that and make sure the joystick is listed as the #1 device.  If not fiddle
with the ^ & v arrows next to the device # until is says #1.
clik ok.  close the game controller window.
   Load your game and re-calibrate your joystick.(you may have to repeat
some of the stuff you just did, lots of games these days don't use special
joystick routines, they just take whatever windows hands them)
That "should" take care of things.
  If that doesn't work.   try adding a joystick from near the top of the
list.  A two axis 4 button stick should be compatible with a TM FCS.  Good
luck.
dave henrie


> I don't have anything else hooked up, well maybe besides my mouse, but
still.
> I popped open the stick last night, cleaned out the dust and some debris
out of
> the sticky gunk,played SCGT for a half an hour with no problems, but when
I
> cranked up SBK2001 again, it happened.  So I'm beggining to think that
there is
> something wrong with the EA Sports games.

> I checked the ea sports help file and it said for my particular joystick,
I
> shoud have it setup in the game controller menu as a Thrustmaster FCS,
will
> that help and how do I do that?

> Nick


> >   Do you have one other joystick connected?  Have you gone to the
joystick
> > control panel(I think dx8 has renamed it '*** options') and removed
the
> > 2nd stick.  It is a hassle, but I only have one controller active at
> > any time.  If I'm flying, I remove the usb wheel and add my joystick.
For
> > racing I reverse the above.  I still leave the stick and wheel connected
to
> > the back of the cpu box, but I only let windows 'see' one of them.  If
not,
> > at least
> > make sure the wheel or joystick you ARE using is listed as the #1 device
> > on the controllers id tab.
> > dave henrie


> > > Well, I though it was just F1CS, but also SBK2001 has fallen victim to
> > > my controller.  It happens about every 5 minutes, more frequent as a
> > > session drags on, that I lose all control of the joystick.  Sometimes
> > > the car/bike will just keep turning after a corner even though I've
> > > straightened out the controller, or sometimes I'll Apply the brakes
only
> > > to have the car/bike keep going into the nearby tire
> > > barriar/armco/sandtrap/pedestrian.  I have not bben able to complete
10
> > > laps at Melbourne becuase of this.  Someone told me that it may be
> > > becuase I have another item in the USB ports, but I don't.  The only
> > > item I have plugged in is the joystick.  So what can I do to fix this?
> > > Thanks in advance.

> > > Nick

Careful with that axe, Nic

Unresponsive controls

by Careful with that axe, Nic » Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:32:04

I'll try that.  The stick is a Logitech Wingman Digital 3D.  It has 7 buttons,
so I'm not sure how well this will work.

Nick


> What joystick do you have?   Here is the method to choose sticks.
> clik on start\settings\control panel.  then you will see a box full of
> icons.  Choose the game controller or joystick controller icon.(the name has
> changed)
> once that window opens, you'll see whatever joystick you have listed, or
> rather whatever joystick YOU told windows you have.
>   So if you need to mimic the Thrustmaster FCS, you are in luck.   I used to
> have one of those...First remove whatever joystick you have selected.  Then
> press the add button(does this sound familiar? :>  )     scroll down the
> list and near the bottom you 'should' see a listing for Thrustmaster Flight
> Control System.   Clik on that line and press the add button.
>   In a few moments the TM FCS should be shown on your game controllers
> window.  It should say ok.  then choose properties and calibrate your stick
> so that you can test all the buttons and hat switches and the throw of the
> stick it self(up/down/left/right/all the corners.)  If everything looks good
> press the apply or ok button.  At the top is a controller id tab. clik on
> that and make sure the joystick is listed as the #1 device.  If not fiddle
> with the ^ & v arrows next to the device # until is says #1.
> clik ok.  close the game controller window.
>    Load your game and re-calibrate your joystick.(you may have to repeat
> some of the stuff you just did, lots of games these days don't use special
> joystick routines, they just take whatever windows hands them)
> That "should" take care of things.
>   If that doesn't work.   try adding a joystick from near the top of the
> list.  A two axis 4 button stick should be compatible with a TM FCS.  Good
> luck.
> dave henrie


> > I don't have anything else hooked up, well maybe besides my mouse, but
> still.
> > I popped open the stick last night, cleaned out the dust and some debris
> out of
> > the sticky gunk,played SCGT for a half an hour with no problems, but when
> I
> > cranked up SBK2001 again, it happened.  So I'm beggining to think that
> there is
> > something wrong with the EA Sports games.

> > I checked the ea sports help file and it said for my particular joystick,
> I
> > shoud have it setup in the game controller menu as a Thrustmaster FCS,
> will
> > that help and how do I do that?

> > Nick


> > >   Do you have one other joystick connected?  Have you gone to the
> joystick
> > > control panel(I think dx8 has renamed it '*** options') and removed
> the
> > > 2nd stick.  It is a hassle, but I only have one controller active at
> > > any time.  If I'm flying, I remove the usb wheel and add my joystick.
> For
> > > racing I reverse the above.  I still leave the stick and wheel connected
> to
> > > the back of the cpu box, but I only let windows 'see' one of them.  If
> not,
> > > at least
> > > make sure the wheel or joystick you ARE using is listed as the #1 device
> > > on the controllers id tab.
> > > dave henrie


> > > > Well, I though it was just F1CS, but also SBK2001 has fallen victim to
> > > > my controller.  It happens about every 5 minutes, more frequent as a
> > > > session drags on, that I lose all control of the joystick.  Sometimes
> > > > the car/bike will just keep turning after a corner even though I've
> > > > straightened out the controller, or sometimes I'll Apply the brakes
> only
> > > > to have the car/bike keep going into the nearby tire
> > > > barriar/armco/sandtrap/pedestrian.  I have not bben able to complete
> 10
> > > > laps at Melbourne becuase of this.  Someone told me that it may be
> > > > becuase I have another item in the USB ports, but I don't.  The only
> > > > item I have plugged in is the joystick.  So what can I do to fix this?
> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > Nick


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