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Steering wheel with no pedals ???

Ian Riche

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Ian Riche » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:06:46

My trusty TM Sprint wheel seems to have died on me in the middle of
GPL Rally 2 :-(

Does anyone know of a suitable replacement that allows the use of hand
levers for gas and brake?

The TM Modena and Modena Pro wheels seem to allow this, but I'm having
a hard time tracking any down in the UK.  Does anyone know if

1) These wheel are any good
2) Where I can buy them
3) Anything better that I should be looking at?

Thanks for your help.

Ian

Ian

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Ian » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 04:42:32


Not particularly

PC world or Game should have them.

The old TM GP1 was a good wheel, but I doubt you'd find one anywhere now.

Where in the UK are you ?
I'm in Wrexham and have an old TM 360 Modena you can have if you can pick it
up.
Only used for about a week, I preferred the MS wheel.

Ian P

Martin Ursu

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Martin Ursu » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:01:29



Ian,

I can only address your first question, having used the TM Sprint and
then following it up with a Modena before making the jump to pedals
just last year (and to force feedback just last week).  

In terms of build quality, I found the Modena to be much better than
the Sprint.  The wheel rotated smoothly, and it was nice not having to
deal with potentiometers.  Also, the wheel is almost dimensionally
identical to the Sprint's (but angled slightly back) and rotates the
same 180 degrees.  And, yes, the wheel supports separate axes for gas
and brake.

However, some things took some getting used to.  The button placement
is awful.  While I appreciated the two four-way hat switches on the
wheel, the only other two buttons on the face of the wheel are tiny
and located low and in the middle of the hub.  Hitting these buttons
while working the paddles and turning the wheel was not easy.  The
paddle design is also inferior to the Sprint's.  First, you only get
to use the lower half of a paddle as an axis; the upper half counts as
a button (presumably to be used for shifting).  The paddles also have
a small amount of travel.  This was probably the hardest feature to
get used to, especially in throttle/brake-sensitive games like GPL.
Finally, the pedals -should you decide to use them- are below-average
(though not nearly as crappy as that lump of plastic that came with
the Sprint).  

I ended up mapping the shift functions on the shift levers and on the
buttons in front.  That way, I'd have at least one button I could
reach regardless of the position of the wheel and which paddle I was
working.  The paddle travel issue I learned to live with.  

Hope this helps.

Martin

Some Call Me Ti

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Some Call Me Ti » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:18:22

My Thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel's accelerator peddle spring has just broken
and Thrustmaster couldn't send me any spares, so I've now gone out and
bought a new Momo Force to replace it. Thus my old Ferrari wheel with a
broken peddle is going spare and could be yours for a small fee. If you
haven't seen what they're like it has 2 digital paddles for shifting and 2
analogue paddles which only work without the peddles plugged in. It also has
a  gear stick and two buttons on the front as well as four way pov hat and
an 8 way pov hat. The FF is pretty good too.

It's up for grabs so if anyone wants it drop me a line.

Some Call Me Tim
(Worcester UK)


Phil Le

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Phil Le » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:52:23


If you want a higher end wheel I know Ball Racing have produced at least one
wheel with hand controls since it was in the RSC tent at Goodwood last year.
If you are interested you should try calling them using their details from
their website at http://www.interactiveracing.com

Phil Lee
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Gunnar Horrigm

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Gunnar Horrigm » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:22:32


> My trusty TM Sprint wheel seems to have died on me in the middle of
> GPL Rally 2 :-(

> Does anyone know of a suitable replacement that allows the use of hand
> levers for gas and brake?

TM Ferrari F1 FFB or whatever it's called.

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straito

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by straito » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:37:03

Hey,i still have my GP1

bought it originally for GP2.Now converted with DIY pedals,all optical.Works
great for GPL and NR2002

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Steve H




> > My trusty TM Sprint wheel seems to have died on me in the middle of
> > GPL Rally 2 :-(

> > Does anyone know of a suitable replacement that allows the use of hand
> > levers for gas and brake?

> > The TM Modena and Modena Pro wheels seem to allow this, but I'm having
> > a hard time tracking any down in the UK.  Does anyone know if

> > 1) These wheel are any good

> Not particularly

> > 2) Where I can buy them

> PC world or Game should have them.

> > 3) Anything better that I should be looking at?

> The old TM GP1 was a good wheel, but I doubt you'd find one anywhere now.

> Where in the UK are you ?
> I'm in Wrexham and have an old TM 360 Modena you can have if you can pick
it
> up.
> Only used for about a week, I preferred the MS wheel.

> > Thanks for your help.

> > Ian

> Ian P

elrik

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by elrik » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:37:45


I had 3 different Modena 360 wheels and lost the right analog lever in each
one in less then 3 weeks each time.  ( the last 2 on warrantee ).  Very
unhappy with them.

I have been using a Logitech Driving force (the one designed for the
Playstation 2) on both my PS2 and PC.  Have had it for a few months now and
have no complaints.

The hand controls are much sturdier and the FF workd great.

Elrikk

PS  If you ever do find one of the high quality wheels with analog hand
controls I would appreciate a nod.

Ian Riche

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Ian Riche » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:01:58

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:18:22 -0000, "Some Call Me Tim"


>My Thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel's accelerator peddle spring has just broken
>and Thrustmaster couldn't send me any spares, so I've now gone out and
>bought a new Momo Force to replace it. Thus my old Ferrari wheel with a
>broken peddle is going spare and could be yours for a small fee. If you
>haven't seen what they're like it has 2 digital paddles for shifting and 2
>analogue paddles which only work without the peddles plugged in. It also has
>a  gear stick and two buttons on the front as well as four way pov hat and
>an 8 way pov hat. The FF is pretty good too.

>It's up for grabs so if anyone wants it drop me a line.

This sounds interesting.  How much do you want?  Postabge will need to
be included, as I am in the Bedford / Milton Keynes area.

Ian

Doug Elliso

Steering wheel with no pedals ???

by Doug Elliso » Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:29:28


:


: > My trusty TM Sprint wheel seems to have died on me in the middle of
: > GPL Rally 2 :-(
: >
: > Does anyone know of a suitable replacement that allows the use of hand
: > levers for gas and brake?
: >
:
: If you want a higher end wheel I know Ball Racing have produced at least
one
: wheel with hand controls since it was in the RSC tent at Goodwood last
year.
: If you are interested you should try calling them using their details from
: their website at http://www.interactiveracing.com

Look a bit prototypeish - but it was very well made I thought

Doug


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