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New York in wunderland

_Mitc

New York in wunderland

by _Mitc » Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:26:42

On July 8, the New York Times ran an historic editorial entitled "The Road
Home," demanding an immediate American withdrawal from Iraq. It is rare that
an editorial gets almost everything wrong, but "The Road Home" pulls it off.
Consider, point by point, its confused-and immoral-defeatism.

1. "It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay
than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit."

Rarely in military history has an "orderly" withdrawal followed a
theater-sized defeat and the flight of several divisions. Abruptly leaving
Iraq would be a logistical and humanitarian catastrophe. And when scenes of
carnage begin appearing on TV screens here about latte time, will the Times
then call for "humanitarian" action?

2. "Like many Americans, we have put off that conclusion, waiting for a sign
that President Bush was seriously trying to dig the United States out of the
disaster he created by invading Iraq without sufficient cause, in the face
of global opposition, and without a plan to stabilize the country
 afterward."

We'll get to the war's "sufficient cause," but first let's address the other
two charges that the Times levels here against President Bush. Both houses
of Congress voted for 23 writs authorizing the war with Iraq-a post-9/11
confirmation of the official policy of regime change in Iraq that President
Clinton originated. Supporters of the war included 70 percent of the
American public in April 2003; the majority of NATO members; a coalition
with more participants than the United Nations alliance had in the Korean
War; and a host of politicians and pundits as diverse as Joe Biden, William
F. Buckley, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton, Francis Fukuyama, Kenneth
Pollack, Harry Reid, Andrew Sullivan, Thomas Friedman, and George Will.

And there was a Pentagon postwar plan to stabilize the country, but it
assumed a decisive defeat and elimination of enemy forces, not a three-week
war in which the majority of Baathists and their terrorist allies fled into
the shadows to await a more opportune time to reemerge, under quite
different rules of engagement.

3. "While Mr. Bush scorns deadlines, he kept promising breakthroughs-after
elections, after a constitution, after sending in thousands more troops. But
those milestones came and went without any progress toward a stable,
democratic Iraq or a path for withdrawal. It is frighteningly clear that Mr.
Bush's plan is to stay the course as long as he is president and dump the
mess on his successor. Whatever his cause was, it is lost."

Of course there were breakthroughs: most notably, millions of Iraqis'
risking their lives to vote. An elected government remains in power, under a
constitution far more liberal than any other in the Arab Middle East. In the
region at large, Libya, following the war, gave up its advanced arsenal of
weapons of mass destruction; Syria fled Lebanon; A.Q. Khan's nuclear ring
was shut down. And despite the efforts of Iran, Syria, and Sunni extremists
in Jordan and Saudi Arabia, a plurality of Iraqis still prefer the chaotic
and dangerous present to the sure methodical slaughter of their recent
Saddamite past.

The Times wonders what Bush's cause was. Easy to explain, if not easy to
achieve: to help foster a constitutional government in the place of a
genocidal regime that had engaged in a de facto war with the United States
since 1991, and harbored or subsidized terrorists like Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas,
at least one plotter of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Abu Musab
al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida affiliates in Kurdistan, and suicide bombers in Gaza
and the West Bank. It was a bold attempt to break with the West's previous
practices, both liberal (appeasement of terrorists) and conservative (doing
business with Saddam, selling arms to Iran, and overlooking the House of
Saud's funding of terrorists).

Is that cause in fact "lost"? The vast majority of 160,000 troops in harm's
way don't think so-despite a home front where U.S. senators have publicly
compared them with Nazis, Stalinists, Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, and Saddam
Hussein's jailers, and where the media's Iraqi narrative has focused
obsessively on Abu Ghraib, Guantnamo, and serial leaks of classified
information, with little interest in the horrific nature of the Islamists in
Iraq or the courageous efforts of many Iraqis to stop them.

4. "Continuing to sacrifice the lives and limbs of American soldiers is
wrong. The war is sapping the strength of the nation's alliances and its
military forces. It is a dangerous diversion from the life-and-death
struggle against terrorists. It is an increasing burden on American
taxpayers, and it is a betrayal of a world that needs the wise application
of American power and principles."

The military is stretched, but hardly broken, despite having tens of
thousands of troops stationed in Japan, Korea, the Balkans, Germany, and
Italy, years-and decades-after we removed dictatorships by force and began
efforts to establish democracies in those once-frightening places. As for
whether Iraq is a diversion from the war on terror: al-Qaida bigwig Ayman
al-Zawahiri, like George W. Bush, has said that Iraq is the primary front in
his efforts to attack the United States and its interests-and he often
despairs about the progress of jihad there. Our enemies, like al-Qaida,
Iran, and Syria, as well as opportunistic neutrals like China and Russia,
are watching closely to see whether America will betray its principles in
Iraq.

5. "Americans must be clear that Iraq, and the region around it, could be
even bloodier and more chaotic after Americans leave. There could be
reprisals against those who worked with American forces, further ethnic
cleansing, even genocide. Potentially destabilizing refugee flows could hit
Jordan and Syria. Iran and Turkey could be tempted to make power grabs."

The Times should abandon the subjunctive mood. The catastrophes that it
matter-of-factly suggests have ample precedents in Vietnam. Apparently, we
should abandon millions of Iraqis to the jihadists (whether Wahhabis or
Khomeinites), expect mass murders in the wake of our flight-"even
 genocide"-and then chalk up the slaughter to Bush's folly. And if that
seems crazy, consider what follows, an Orwellian account of the mechanics of
our flight:

6. "The main road south to Kuwait is notoriously vulnerable to roadside bomb
attacks. Soldiers, weapons and vehicles will need to be deployed to secure
bases while airlift and sealift operations are organized. Withdrawal routes
will have to be guarded. The exit must be everything the invasion was not:
based on reality and backed by adequate resources.

"The United States should explore using Kurdish territory in the north of
Iraq as a secure staging area. Being able to use bases and ports in Turkey
would also make withdrawal faster and safer. Turkey has been an inconsistent
ally in this war, but like other nations, it should realize that shouldering
part of the burden of the aftermath is in its own interest."

This insistence on planned defeat, following incessant criticism of
potential victory, is lunatic. The Times's frustration with Turkey and other
"inconsistent" allies won't end with our withdrawal and defeat. Like
everyone in the region, the Turks want to ally with winners and distance
themselves from losers-and care little about sermons from the likes of the
Times editors. The ideas about Kurdish territory and Turkey are simply cover
for the likely consequences of defeat: once we are gone and a federated Iraq
is finished, Kurdistan's democratic success is fair game for Turkey,
which-with the assent of opportunistic allies-will move to end it by
crushing our Kurdish friends.

7. "Despite President Bush's repeated claims, Al Qaeda had no significant
foothold in Iraq before the invasion, which gave it new base camps, new
recruits and new prestige.

"This war diverted Pentagon resources from Afghanistan, where the military
had a real chance to hunt down Al Qaeda's leaders. It alienated essential
allies in the war against terrorism. It drained the strength and readiness
of American troops."

The Times raises the old charge that if we weren't in Iraq, neither would be
al-Qaida-more of whose members we have killed in Iraq than anywhere else. In
1944, Japan had relatively few soldiers in Okinawa; when the Japanese
learned that we planned to invade in 1945, they increased their forces
there. Did the subsequent carnage-four times the number of U.S. dead as in
Iraq, by the way, in one-sixteenth the time-prove our actions ill
considered? Likewise, no Soviets were in Eastern Europe until we moved to
attack and destroy Hitler, who had kept communists out. Did the resulting
Iron Curtain mean that it was a mistake to deter German aggression?

And if the Times sees the war in Afghanistan as so important, why didn't it
support an all-out war against the Taliban and al-Qaida, as it apparently
does now, when we were solely in Afghanistan?

8. "Iraq may fragment into separate Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite republics, and
American troops are not going to stop that from happening. . . . To start,
Washington must turn to the United Nations, which Mr. Bush spurned and
ridiculed as a preface to war."

But Bush did go to the United Nations, which, had it enforced its own
resolutions, might have prevented the war. In fact, the Bush administration's
engagement with the UN contrasts sharply with President Clinton's snub of
that organization during the U.S.-led bombing of the Balkans-unleashed,
unlike Iraq, without Congressional approval. The Times also neglects to
mention that the UN was knee-deep in the mess of its cash cow Iraq, from its
appeasement of the genocidal Hussein regime to its graft-ridden, $50 billion
oil-for-food scandal, reaching the highest echelons of Kofi Annan's UN
administration.

9. "Washington also has to mend ...

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Mitch

New York in wunderland

by Mitch » Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:21:33

""  ""
"_Mitch" <na...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message

news:MMyli.26733$C96.22214@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> On July 8, the New York Times ran an historic editorial entitled "The Road
> Home," demanding an immediate American withdrawal from Iraq. It is rare
> that an editorial gets almost everything wrong, but "The Road Home" pulls
> it off. Consider, point by point, its confused-and immoral-defeatism.

> 1. "It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay
> than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit."

> Rarely in military history has an "orderly" withdrawal followed a
> theater-sized defeat and the flight of several divisions. Abruptly leaving
> Iraq would be a logistical and humanitarian catastrophe. And when scenes
> of carnage begin appearing on TV screens here about latte time, will the
> Times then call for "humanitarian" action?

> 2. "Like many Americans, we have put off that conclusion, waiting for a
> sign that President Bush was seriously trying to dig the United States out
> of the disaster he created by invading Iraq without sufficient cause, in
> the face of global opposition, and without a plan to stabilize the country
> afterward."

> We'll get to the war's "sufficient cause," but first let's address the
> other two charges that the Times levels here against President Bush. Both
> houses of Congress voted for 23 writs authorizing the war with Iraq-a
> post-9/11 confirmation of the official policy of regime change in Iraq
> that President Clinton originated. Supporters of the war included 70
> percent of the American public in April 2003; the majority of NATO
> members; a coalition with more participants than the United Nations
> alliance had in the Korean War; and a host of politicians and pundits as
> diverse as Joe Biden, William F. Buckley, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton,
> Francis Fukuyama, Kenneth Pollack, Harry Reid, Andrew Sullivan, Thomas
> Friedman, and George Will.

> And there was a Pentagon postwar plan to stabilize the country, but it
> assumed a decisive defeat and elimination of enemy forces, not a
> three-week war in which the majority of Baathists and their terrorist
> allies fled into the shadows to await a more opportune time to reemerge,
> under quite different rules of engagement.

> 3. "While Mr. Bush scorns deadlines, he kept promising breakthroughs-after
> elections, after a constitution, after sending in thousands more troops.
> But those milestones came and went without any progress toward a stable,
> democratic Iraq or a path for withdrawal. It is frighteningly clear that
> Mr. Bush's plan is to stay the course as long as he is president and dump
> the mess on his successor. Whatever his cause was, it is lost."

> Of course there were breakthroughs: most notably, millions of Iraqis'
> risking their lives to vote. An elected government remains in power, under
> a constitution far more liberal than any other in the Arab Middle East. In
> the region at large, Libya, following the war, gave up its advanced
> arsenal of weapons of mass destruction; Syria fled Lebanon; A.Q. Khan's
> nuclear ring was shut down. And despite the efforts of Iran, Syria, and
> Sunni extremists in Jordan and Saudi Arabia, a plurality of Iraqis still
> prefer the chaotic and dangerous present to the sure methodical slaughter
> of their recent Saddamite past.

> The Times wonders what Bush's cause was. Easy to explain, if not easy to
> achieve: to help foster a constitutional government in the place of a
> genocidal regime that had engaged in a de facto war with the United States
> since 1991, and harbored or subsidized terrorists like Abu Nidal, Abu
> Abbas, at least one plotter of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Abu
> Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida affiliates in Kurdistan, and suicide bombers in
> Gaza and the West Bank. It was a bold attempt to break with the West's
> previous practices, both liberal (appeasement of terrorists) and
> conservative (doing business with Saddam, selling arms to Iran, and
> overlooking the House of Saud's funding of terrorists).

> Is that cause in fact "lost"? The vast majority of 160,000 troops in
> harm's way don't think so-despite a home front where U.S. senators have
> publicly compared them with Nazis, Stalinists, Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, and
> Saddam Hussein's jailers, and where the media's Iraqi narrative has
> focused obsessively on Abu Ghraib, Guantnamo, and serial leaks of
> classified information, with little interest in the horrific nature of the
> Islamists in Iraq or the courageous efforts of many Iraqis to stop them.

> 4. "Continuing to sacrifice the lives and limbs of American soldiers is
> wrong. The war is sapping the strength of the nation's alliances and its
> military forces. It is a dangerous diversion from the life-and-death
> struggle against terrorists. It is an increasing burden on American
> taxpayers, and it is a betrayal of a world that needs the wise application
> of American power and principles."

> The military is stretched, but hardly broken, despite having tens of
> thousands of troops stationed in Japan, Korea, the Balkans, Germany, and
> Italy, years-and decades-after we removed dictatorships by force and began
> efforts to establish democracies in those once-frightening places. As for
> whether Iraq is a diversion from the war on terror: al-Qaida bigwig Ayman
> al-Zawahiri, like George W. Bush, has said that Iraq is the primary front
> in his efforts to attack the United States and its interests-and he often
> despairs about the progress of jihad there. Our enemies, like al-Qaida,
> Iran, and Syria, as well as opportunistic neutrals like China and Russia,
> are watching closely to see whether America will betray its principles in
> Iraq.

> 5. "Americans must be clear that Iraq, and the region around it, could be
> even bloodier and more chaotic after Americans leave. There could be
> reprisals against those who worked with American forces, further ethnic
> cleansing, even genocide. Potentially destabilizing refugee flows could
> hit Jordan and Syria. Iran and Turkey could be tempted to make power
> grabs."

> The Times should abandon the subjunctive mood. The catastrophes that it
> matter-of-factly suggests have ample precedents in Vietnam. Apparently, we
> should abandon millions of Iraqis to the jihadists (whether Wahhabis or
> Khomeinites), expect mass murders in the wake of our flight-"even
> genocide"-and then chalk up the slaughter to Bush's folly. And if that
> seems crazy, consider what follows, an Orwellian account of the mechanics
> of our flight:

> 6. "The main road south to Kuwait is notoriously vulnerable to roadside
> bomb attacks. Soldiers, weapons and vehicles will need to be deployed to
> secure bases while airlift and sealift operations are organized.
> Withdrawal routes will have to be guarded. The exit must be everything the
> invasion was not: based on reality and backed by adequate resources.

> "The United States should explore using Kurdish territory in the north of
> Iraq as a secure staging area. Being able to use bases and ports in Turkey
> would also make withdrawal faster and safer. Turkey has been an
> inconsistent ally in this war, but like other nations, it should realize
> that shouldering part of the burden of the aftermath is in its own
> interest."

> This insistence on planned defeat, following incessant criticism of
> potential victory, is lunatic. The Times's frustration with Turkey and
> other "inconsistent" allies won't end with our withdrawal and defeat. Like
> everyone in the region, the Turks want to ally with winners and distance
> themselves from losers-and care little about sermons from the likes of the
> Times editors. The ideas about Kurdish territory and Turkey are simply
> cover for the likely consequences of defeat: once we are gone and a
> federated Iraq is finished, Kurdistan's democratic success is fair game
> for Turkey, which-with the assent of opportunistic allies-will move to end
> it by crushing our Kurdish friends.

> 7. "Despite President Bush's repeated claims, Al Qaeda had no significant
> foothold in Iraq before the invasion, which gave it new base camps, new
> recruits and new prestige.

> "This war diverted Pentagon resources from Afghanistan, where the military
> had a real chance to hunt down Al Qaeda's leaders. It alienated essential
> allies in the war against terrorism. It drained the strength and readiness
> of American troops."

> The Times raises the old charge that if we weren't in Iraq, neither would
> be al-Qaida-more of whose members we have killed in Iraq than anywhere
> else. In 1944, Japan had relatively few soldiers in Okinawa; when the
> Japanese learned that we planned to invade in 1945, they increased their
> forces there. Did the subsequent carnage-four times the number of U.S.
> dead as in Iraq, by the way, in one-sixteenth the time-prove our actions
> ill considered? Likewise, no Soviets were in Eastern Europe until we moved
> to attack and destroy Hitler, who had kept communists out. Did the
> resulting Iron Curtain mean that it was a mistake to deter German
> aggression?

> And if the Times sees the war in Afghanistan as so important, why didn't
> it support an all-out war against the Taliban and al-Qaida, as it
> apparently does now, when we were solely in Afghanistan?

> 8. "Iraq may fragment into separate Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite republics,
> and American troops are not going to stop that from happening. . . . To
> start, Washington must turn to the United Nations, which Mr. Bush spurned
> and ridiculed as a preface to war."

> But Bush did go to the United Nations, which, had it enforced its own
> resolutions, might have prevented the war. In fact, the Bush
> administration's engagement with the UN contrasts sharply with President
> Clinton's snub

...

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