rec.autos.simulators

by **Chuck Stuar** » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00

I realize this newsgroup is generally reserved for crying about late software, patches,
etc., so this thread might be off topic but what the hell.

When I am about to pass a slower car, the last thing I want him to do is to suddenly
dart left or right or reduce his speed. I have usually been following him for a lap or
two so I know what line he is driving and can judge his speed relative to mine. I would
much prefer that he maintain his line and speed and let me choose how and when to make
the pass. Just because I am riding his tailpipe doesn't mean I am ready to pass him. I
much prefer passing on a straight or going into a turn. So if you see me coming up in
your mirror, just keep on doing what you're doing and let me handling the passing.

Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

by **Selom Ofo** » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00

> I realize this newsgroup is generally reserved for crying about late software, patches,
> etc., so this thread might be off topic but what the hell.
> When I am about to pass a slower car, the last thing I want him to do is to suddenly
> dart left or right or reduce his speed. I have usually been following him for a lap or
> two so I know what line he is driving and can judge his speed relative to mine. I would
> much prefer that he maintain his line and speed and let me choose how and when to make
> the pass. Just because I am riding his tailpipe doesn't mean I am ready to pass him. I
> much prefer passing on a straight or going into a turn. So if you see me coming up in
> your mirror, just keep on doing what you're doing and let me handling the passing.

word-wrap dammit! we unix folks need that ;). who are you talking to?
computer cars or human cars? if it's computer cars use the straights and the
corners.. where else? if it's human cars, bad luck because I barely manage to
keep mine flying on the road anyways. besides humans don't respond very
well to pressure from behind. it's either you're passing or you're not. I
don't want nobody admiring my behind ;)

by **John Wallac** » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00

If the guy's got any sense what he'll be doing is modifying his lines
and driving as unpredictably as possible.

Fair enough if he's a backmarker, but you're asking a bit much to ask
someone in front to "behave" when being passed - that's your job ;)

Cheers!
John

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by **Kyle Langst** » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>> I realize this newsgroup is generally reserved for crying about late software, patches,
>> etc., so this thread might be off topic but what the hell.
>> When I am about to pass a slower car, the last thing I want him to do is to suddenly
>> dart left or right or reduce his speed. I have usually been following him for a lap or
>> two so I know what line he is driving and can judge his speed relative to mine. I would
>> much prefer that he maintain his line and speed and let me choose how and when to make
>> the pass. Just because I am riding his tailpipe doesn't mean I am ready to pass him. I
>> much prefer passing on a straight or going into a turn. So if you see me coming up in
>> your mirror, just keep on doing what you're doing and let me handling the passing.
>word-wrap dammit! we unix folks need that ;). who are you talking to?
>computer cars or human cars?

[snip]

Why the heck would he post an article in this newsgroup directed
toward the AI cars in NASCAR Racing?

Kyle Langston

by **Ron R.** » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>I realize this newsgroup is generally reserved for crying about late software, patches,
>etc., so this thread might be off topic but what the hell.

Heh heh heh, <chuckle, snortle> Aw damn, I just sprayed soda all over
my moniter...:)

Ummm, Are you refering to Hawaii or what?
I assume <dangerously so> that you are as I've yet to have an AI car
"bob & weave" unless it's the pace car and I come flying up on it
under yellow.

Ron R II

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by **Regis Philbi** » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00

> >>> I realize this newsgroup is generally reserved for crying about late software, patches,
> >>> etc., so this thread might be off topic but what the hell.

> >>> When I am about to pass a slower car, the last thing I want him to do is to suddenly
> >>> dart left or right or reduce his speed. I have usually been following him for a lap or
> >>> two so I know what line he is driving and can judge his speed relative to mine. I would
> >>> much prefer that he maintain his line and speed and let me choose how and when to make
> >>> the pass. Just because I am riding his tailpipe doesn't mean I am ready to pass him. I
> >>> much prefer passing on a straight or going into a turn. So if you see me coming up in
> >>> your mirror, just keep on doing what you're doing and let me handling the passing.

> >>word-wrap dammit! we unix folks need that ;). who are you talking to?
> >>computer cars or human cars?

> >[snip]

> > Why the heck would he post an article in this newsgroup directed
> >toward the AI cars in NASCAR Racing?

> >Kyle Langston

> Who knows maybe when you leave your computer for a drink or something
> the computer drivers read the messages. The AI is getting smarter and
> smarter these days. ;-)

If the AI cars are so smart, why do they insist on taking the wrong line
in the chicane at Watkins Glen? :)
I know this may be slightly off-topic, but do we have any Chris Elliott
fans in this newsgroup?

by **Jerry & Lori Liuda** » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00

So if you see me coming up in your mirror, just keep on doing what
you're doing and let me handling the passing.

>Fair enough if he's a backmarker, but you're asking a bit much to ask
>someone in front to "behave" when being passed - that's your job ;)

Having done some SCCA racing and rallying in my day, and vintage racing
today, I can't resist throwing my two cents worth in to this thread
(even at the risk of being flamed, which seems to be more important
than talking racing in r.a.s. lately.)

What I offer here is based on my experience. I do not claim to be an
expert, or the best racer to ever hit the track. Heaven knows had I
been better in my earlier racing career, sponsors would have been
knocking at my door, rather than me hat in hand, looking for tire
money. I digress.

My experience has been that if you are dicing for position, it is the
racer behind that must find their way around the other. Blocking is
usually tolerated when a fight for position is being engaged. However,
if a racer is being lapped, it is considered good racing etiquette to
let faster cars by at the earliest opportunity. A lapped racer is not
expected to give up his line into a turn for a faster car, but not
block that car either on exit, or when trying to pass in the corner.
Again, it is still up to the faster car to find their way around. I
would expect the same to hold true for racing sims.

Regards,

Jerry

Purple Lips Racing
'61 Austin Healey 3000
'68 Datsun 2000 Factory Lightweight

by **Kevin Hua** » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>>> I realize this newsgroup is generally reserved for crying about late software, patches,
>>> etc., so this thread might be off topic but what the hell.
>>> When I am about to pass a slower car, the last thing I want him to do is to suddenly
>>> dart left or right or reduce his speed. I have usually been following him for a lap or
>>> two so I know what line he is driving and can judge his speed relative to mine. I would
>>> much prefer that he maintain his line and speed and let me choose how and when to make
>>> the pass. Just because I am riding his tailpipe doesn't mean I am ready to pass him. I
>>> much prefer passing on a straight or going into a turn. So if you see me coming up in
>>> your mirror, just keep on doing what you're doing and let me handling the passing.
>>word-wrap dammit! we unix folks need that ;). who are you talking to?
>>computer cars or human cars?
>[snip]
> Why the heck would he post an article in this newsgroup directed
>toward the AI cars in NASCAR Racing?
>Kyle Langston

Who knows maybe when you leave your computer for a drink or something
the computer drivers read the messages. The AI is getting smarter and
smarter these days. ;-)

Kevin
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by **John Wallac** » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00

writes

.....that's exactly what I was saying ;) !!

From my racing days and in the races I've done on Hawaii, as long as
you're BEHIND me (and you're not lapping me), I'm not going to make it
easy to get by - quite the opposite. It's your responsibility to get by.
As soon as you bet bodywork alongside mine, then it's equally MY
responsibility to avoid a shunt, but I'll still try and fight for the
place.

Kinda makes it clean AND fun :)

Cheers!
John

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by **Ron R.** » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>So if you see me coming up in your mirror, just keep on doing what
>you're doing and let me handling the passing.
>My experience has been that if you are dicing for position, it is the
>racer behind that must find their way around the other. Blocking is
>usually tolerated when a fight for position is being engaged. However,
>if a racer is being lapped, it is considered good racing etiquette to
>let faster cars by at the earliest opportunity. A lapped racer is not
>expected to give up his line into a turn for a faster car, but not
>block that car either on exit, or when trying to pass in the corner.
>Again, it is still up to the faster car to find their way around. I
>would expect the same to hold true for racing sims.

Seems resonable to me.
Ron R II

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by **Mike Carrother** » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>writes

>>My experience has been that if you are dicing for position, it is the
>>racer behind that must find their way around the other. Blocking is
>>usually tolerated when a fight for position is being engaged.
However,
>>if a racer is being lapped, it is considered good racing etiquette to
>>let faster cars by at the earliest opportunity. A lapped racer is
not
>>expected to give up his line into a turn for a faster car, but not
>>block that car either on exit, or when trying to pass in the corner.
>>Again, it is still up to the faster car to find their way around. I
>>would expect the same to hold true for racing sims.

>.....that's exactly what I was saying ;) !!

>From my racing days and in the races I've done on Hawaii, as long as
>you're BEHIND me (and you're not lapping me), I'm not going to make it
>easy to get by - quite the opposite. It's your responsibility to get
by.
>As soon as you bet bodywork alongside mine, then it's equally MY
>responsibility to avoid a shunt, but I'll still try and fight for the
>place.

>Kinda makes it clean AND fun :)

>Cheers!
>John

This is the way I run also, except if I have been damaged and am not
running full tilt. Then, even if for posistion, I will give someone
more room to try to pass. Doesn't make me reall happy, but I have a
better chance on finishing. ;)

Mike (Parnelli)

by **Chuck Stuar** » Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:00:00

To answer both of you.
1) Netscape news reader has no Word Wrap.
2) Think Hawaii.

Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

by **Michael E. Carv** » Sun, 14 Jul 1996 04:00:00

: 1) Netscape news reader has no Word Wrap.

Ah, but who controls Netscape? Us humans have word-wrap, it's also
known under various other names, "Carriage Return", "Enter", "Return",
"CR/LF" to name a few... ;)

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by **Chuck Stuar** » Mon, 15 Jul 1996 04:00:00

> : 1) Netscape news reader has no Word Wrap.

> Ah, but who controls Netscape? Us humans have word-wrap, it's also
> known under various other names, "Carriage Return", "Enter", "Return",
> "CR/LF" to name a few... ;)

And then everyone the their news reader window smaller than mine ends up with messages
formated as follows:

Besides WordWrap is a read function. UNIX is history. Upgrade.

Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

by **Michael Kirt** » Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:00:00

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