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Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

-~=Darek M=~

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by -~=Darek M=~ » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Is it a sim? Anyone see anything about it anywhere except the EB ad in
PCGamer?

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MindSpring Use

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by MindSpring Use » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Here's a preview of it?

jj

http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe...
pc

Todd Sorense

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Todd Sorense » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I have heard it is a sim.


Matthew Birger Knutse

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Matthew Birger Knutse » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00


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/reviewvault/reviews.asp, line 25

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Matt
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david_j_wil..

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by david_j_wil.. » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I got the same error.  I backed up to their home page, used their
search box to look for "skip barber", and found the review
immediately.  My browser is showing a URL that appears to match the one
that gave the error, so I don't know what's wrong with it.

As for the game...  I took one of Skip Barber's courses (Sebring in
1988), and I can't possibly say enough good things about his school.
It's not cheap, but they really deliver an experience you would never
forget.  How that will translate into a PC sim is hard to guess.
Personally, I'll buy a copy just on the strength of my experience with
their school.  (Of course, I've bought two PC games and one steering
wheel with Mario's name on them just because of my respect for Mario,
and they didn't work out very well.)

Dave Wilson




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Michael Barlo

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Michael Barlo » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00



> >Here's a preview of it?

> >jj

> >http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe...
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> >pc

> error '80020009'
> Exception occurred.

> /reviewvault/reviews.asp, line 25

> ??

> Matt
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Just a suggestion,
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Pat Dotso

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Pat Dotso » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Boy, this one sure slipped in under the radar.  I
hadn't really even heard anything about it, but
it sure looks great!

2000 may be a banner year for new sims...  I sure
hope so after the dissappointment that was 1999.
Oh, sure, there were a few good games released,
but nothing that broke new ground in terms of
realism.

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Steve Ferguso

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Steve Ferguso » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

: I got the same error.  I backed up to their home page, used their
: search box to look for "skip barber", and found the review
: immediately.  My browser is showing a URL that appears to match the one
: that gave the error, so I don't know what's wrong with it.

Worked for me as quoted.  Odd.

: As for the game...  I took one of Skip Barber's courses (Sebring in
: 1988), and I can't possibly say enough good things about his school.
: It's not cheap, but they really deliver an experience you would never
: forget.  How that will translate into a PC sim is hard to guess.
: Personally, I'll buy a copy just on the strength of my experience with
: their school.  (Of course, I've bought two PC games and one steering
: wheel with Mario's name on them just because of my respect for Mario,
: and they didn't work out very well.)

Part of the game claims to take you through learning heel-and-toe
downshifting.  How are they going to do that without a clutch?  I guess
they can get it half right by having all those with split-axis pedals
getting the simultaneous braking and throttle blip actions sorted out.

Stephen

Chris Help

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Chris Help » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

FACT SHEET
Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip
Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber
Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with
professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's
ultra-competitive developmental racing series. Employing sophisticated data
acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class coaching staff works to
ensure that you become an expert in the art and science of open-wheel
racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated graphics, realistic
physics, and an unparalleled training program to form the ultimate
motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula Dodge
racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe
downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to
compete in the Formula Race Series. As you progress from novice to veteran,
you'll graduate to the pinnacle of Skip Barber's world-famous racing school,
the Barber Dodge Pro Series. Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to
suit a specific track or driving style, and then use your training and
skills to compete against others and achieve victory at the highest level!
Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip
Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber
Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with
professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's
ultra-competitive developmental racing series.
Employing sophisticated data acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class
coaching staff works to ensure that you become an expert in the art and
science of open-wheel racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated
graphics, realistic physics, and an unparalleled training program to form
the ultimate motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula
Dodge racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe
downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to
compete in the Formula Race Series.

As you progress from novice to veteran, you'll graduate to the pinnacle of
Skip Barber's world-famous racing school, the Barber Dodge Pro Series.
Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to suit a specific track or
driving style, and then use your training and skills to compete against
others and achieve victory at the highest level!

Attend a simulation of Barber's 3-day Racing School & Cra Control Clinic.
in-game instructors provide intelligent feedback & performance analysis.
Compete in Barber's amateur "Formula Dodge" series.
Compete in Barber's professional "Pro Dodge" series.
Modify your car's setup with the optional help of an "intelligent" mechanic.
Practive, race an event, or an entire season against computer or human
opponents.
Extensive on-line support using dedicated server technologies.
Highly realistic physics model offers six degrees of freedom and employs
accurate engineering specifications.
10 real tracks from across the U.S.
Direct3D copliant graphics engine works with all hardware accelerators.
Environmental sound & force feedback support.


Chris Help

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Chris Help » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

(From Operation Sports)
http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe...
pc

Skip Barber Racing Preview
MONDAY, JANUARY 10, 2000

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OVERVIEW

FACT SHEET
Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip
Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber
Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with
professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's
ultra-competitive developmental racing series. Employing sophisticated data
acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class coaching staff works to
ensure that you become an expert in the art and science of open-wheel
racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated graphics, realistic
physics, and an unparalleled training program to form the ultimate
motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula Dodge
racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe
downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to
compete in the Formula Race Series. As you progress from novice to veteran,
you'll graduate to the pinnacle of Skip Barber's world-famous racing school,
the Barber Dodge Pro Series. Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to
suit a specific track or driving style, and then use your training and
skills to compete against others and achieve victory at the highest level!
Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip
Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber
Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with
professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's
ultra-competitive developmental racing series.
Employing sophisticated data acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class
coaching staff works to ensure that you become an expert in the art and
science of open-wheel racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated
graphics, realistic physics, and an unparalleled training program to form
the ultimate motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula
Dodge racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe
downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to
compete in the Formula Race Series.

As you progress from novice to veteran, you'll graduate to the pinnacle of
Skip Barber's world-famous racing school, the Barber Dodge Pro Series.
Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to suit a specific track or
driving style, and then use your training and skills to compete against
others and achieve victory at the highest level!

Attend a simulation of Barber's 3-day Racing School & Cra Control Clinic.
in-game instructors provide intelligent feedback & performance analysis.
Compete in Barber's amateur "Formula Dodge" series.
Compete in Barber's professional "Pro Dodge" series.
Modify your car's setup with the optional help of an "intelligent" mechanic.
Practive, race an event, or an entire season against computer or human
opponents.
Extensive on-line support using dedicated server technologies.
Highly realistic physics model offers six degrees of freedom and employs
accurate engineering specifications.
10 real tracks from across the U.S.
Direct3D copliant graphics engine works with all hardware accelerators.
Environmental sound & force feedback support.

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Chris Help

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Chris Help » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I checked out the site - graphics look rather poor, but the sim concept
sounds great.

Sky


http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe...

> pc


> > Is it a sim? Anyone see anything about it anywhere except the EB ad in
> > PCGamer?

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daxe rexfor

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by daxe rexfor » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

It works fine if you make sure to get the 'pc' on the next line.

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Morgan VW

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Morgan VW » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

The link is munged up by your news reader. Copy the actual link then add the
"gpc". That fixed it for me.

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> >Here's a preview of it?

> >jj

> >http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe...
> g
> >pc

> error '80020009'
> Exception occurred.

> /reviewvault/reviews.asp, line 25

> ??

> Matt
> -------
> GPLEA

Michael Youn

Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

by Michael Youn » Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:00:00


I would think the clutch would be optional, as it is for some racers. Fine
if you have the hardware and want to use it, but it should work just fine
without a clutch. The sim value would be essentially the same as breathing
the gas on GPL's up-shift. In fact, I think Papy only got this half right:
downshifts are easier in GPL than are upshifts. Anyway, blipping the gas in
neutral would be difficult to simulate with today's hardware. Maybe the
first tap down would put the box in neutral, allowing you to blip and match.
The next tap down should shift into the lower gear. The trouble is, I like
to skip gears while downshifting, especially given that I'm blipping for
each one. A good implementation would select a gear close to a good match
for my revs and road speed. IMHO. This would be a nice addition for GPL. I
wonder how long it would take the hot-lappers to get smooth again. :-)

Michael.


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