rec.autos.simulators

> GP2 has a trackeditor, the community is very alive to this day, although
> the game is 4 years old, and more than 600 tracks have been released for
> it.

> Ofcourse this editor was not made by the developers of the game, but by a
> 3rd party (by the name of Paul Hoad, thanks!)

> AFAIK GP2 is the only decent sim with a trackeditor.
> GPL has none, MGPRS2/F1RS has none, etc. Only CPR had one, IIRC, but that
> was not a decent sim.

> > I remember the Atari console version of Pole Position had a track
editor.

> > Like the game (though not bad for its time) it wasn't very realistic.
> For
> > instance you could make the track go anywhere, even in one continous
> > straight line, and you would always end up back at the start line at
the
> > end of the lap.

> > More seriously, why is it that no racing sims (though I think SODA had
> one)
> > have a track editor?  Tracks are always the most eagerly awaited third
> > party add-ons for any sim and I don't know how it could hurt to allow
us
> to
> > easily make our own tracks.  Even if didn't have GPL physics I would be
> > interested in any half decent sim which had a track editing feature.

> > Of course I doubt this will happen as the paying public has no right
> > whatsoever to decide what should be in their sims.

> > Chris

> International Rally Championship (not really a sim, I know) had what
> was advertised as a 'track editor', but it wasn't a proper one. You
> couldn't stick bits of track together, Scalextric-style, but could
> only influence variables such as how bumpy or narrow or twisty the
> track was, and the surfaces.
> The incredibly ancient Lotus Esprit Turbo challenge arcade game had
> much the same thing, and I have a vague feeling that Stunt Car Racer
> on the C64 (one of Mr Crammond's early works, I believe) had something
> similar.

> <snip>
> >More seriously, why is it that no racing sims (though I think SODA had
one)
> >have a track editor?  Tracks are always the most eagerly awaited third
> >party add-ons for any sim and I don't know how it could hurt to allow us
to
> >easily make our own tracks.  Even if didn't have GPL physics I would be
> >interested in any half decent sim which had a track editing feature.

> >Of course I doubt this will happen as the paying public has no right
> >whatsoever to decide what should be in their sims.

> >Chris

> --
> David.
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

> Yep. But it had a "grid", you could only lay down predefined tiles. So
much
> for exactly recreating tracks... It had one tile made especially for the
> tight Monaco-Loews section, the rest was just basic left-and righthander
> stuff in 3 different radii. You could also place cameramen, they were
> visible when you drive, and harder than the streetlights at Monaco.

> I haven't seen that game in 10 years.... it's much older than GP2 IIRC,
> even before F1GP. It ran somewhat on a 286 machine, while F1GP needed a
> 386. Ummm, let's say 1991 for GP-Unlimited and about 1993 for F1GP?

> > Grand Prix Unlimited from Accolade also had some sort of track editor. I
> > think it came out around about the same time as GP2. Wasn't a very good
> game
> > but I picked it up at a time when I felt the need to buy up every racing
> > related game \ sim out there. Think I only ever played it a few times
and
> > spent more time trying to create the next Spa...

> > Peter Hooper