rec.autos.simulators

by **Stuart Boo** » Wed, 03 Apr 1996 04:00:00

>I like my T2, but it feels rather flimsy, like I could yank the wheel
>off at any moment. There are two others on the market, both which claim
>heavy-duty construction.

>1) The TSW, made by a small outfit in Iowa. $300
>2) The Extreme Competition, which costs even more.

>Could people share their opinions on these two products? Thanks.

It's taken me ages to post a reply to this. Sorry, but a house move
took me out for a while. Here's a message I posted a while back
regarding the ECC kit which I own. Unfortunately I haven't ever tried
the TSW, much as I'd love it compare the two.

I own the CDS, which is absolutely amazing to drive with. Very smooth,
all the way though its travel, without the slightest notching at the
centre position of the wheel. It's all made out of steel, and weighs
16lbs and 12lbs for the wheel and pedals respectively. The wheel is a
3 spoked affair, covered in suede leather. 4 thumb shifters sit above
the 2 horizontal spokes in 2 groups of 2 buttons. I use these for
shifting and reversing. Sited next to where your thumbs naturally rest
they enable extremely fast shifting. I don't know how long it takes me
to get from 6th to 1st but it's as fast as I can punch these buttons
ie VERY quickly!! The pedals are springed with different strength
springs, so the brake is much stiffer than the gas pedal. They sit in
a large metal wedge, much like a footrest. The thing's built to last,
looks the business in front of the PC and is immobile during racing.
Highly recommended.

Contact:

John Pribble
Extreme Competition Controls, Inc.
P.O. Box 80231
Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55408 USA

Or poke your WWW browser at:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Stuart

Keyboard Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

Stuart Booth, somewhere nr Guildford, England, UK

by **Ira L. Johns** » Mon, 08 Apr 1996 05:00:00

>>I like my T2, but it feels rather flimsy, like I could yank the wheel
>>off at any moment. There are two others on the market, both which claim
>>heavy-duty construction.

>>1) The TSW, made by a small outfit in Iowa. $300
>>2) The Extreme Competition, which costs even more.

>>Could people share their opinions on these two products? Thanks.

>It's taken me ages to post a reply to this. Sorry, but a house move
>took me out for a while. Here's a message I posted a while back
>regarding the ECC kit which I own. Unfortunately I haven't ever tried
>the TSW, much as I'd love it compare the two.

>I own the CDS, which is absolutely amazing to drive with. Very smooth,
>all the way though its travel, without the slightest notching at the
>centre position of the wheel. It's all made out of steel, and weighs
>16lbs and 12lbs for the wheel and pedals respectively. The wheel is a
>3 spoked affair, covered in suede leather. 4 thumb shifters sit above
>the 2 horizontal spokes in 2 groups of 2 buttons. I use these for
>shifting and reversing. Sited next to where your thumbs naturally rest
>they enable extremely fast shifting. I don't know how long it takes me
>to get from 6th to 1st but it's as fast as I can punch these buttons
>ie VERY quickly!! The pedals are springed with different strength
>springs, so the brake is much stiffer than the gas pedal. They sit in
>a large metal wedge, much like a footrest. The thing's built to last,
>looks the business in front of the PC and is immobile during racing.
>Highly recommended.

>Contact:

>John Pribble
>Extreme Competition Controls, Inc.
>P.O. Box 80231
>Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55408 USA

>Or poke your WWW browser at:

>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/extreme

>Stuart

>Keyboard Dragon
>-==(UDIC)==-

>Stuart Booth, somewhere nr Guildford, England, UK

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I have the TSW. I am very satisfied. I read the above review of the EEC.
The only thing it mentioned that made me say "Hey! I wish my TSW could do
that", was a way to reverse without useing the keyboard. And for another
$200 I don't think I'll miss it much. The TSW is a solid piece of equipment.
Built to last. Very smooth. Very well built. The best thing I can say about
it is to tell the following story: My racin' bud came over last night for the
first time since my wheel arrived. He was impressed. How impressed? His
check will be in Monday's mail.
in short, $300 is a lot of money, but if your serious about racing simulators,
you need the TSW or it's equivalant. The TSW is great. From the stories I've
heard about the T1/T2, they are mass produced and have a cheep feel. I have
never tried the EEC. I unrderstand it's great too. However, it served a very
useful function for me: The wife was much more understanding of $300 on a
wheel, after I mentioned the $500 EEC.

For info from the horses mouth: Email Trevor C. Thomas (TSW stands for
Thomas' Steering Wheel) at

or write to:

The TSW Co
1332 9th St NW
Cedar Rapids, IA
52405

They have a good home page too, but I don't remember the address. You could
use your Web searcher to find it.

Cheers, 1J

"You can't be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and
an airline--it helps if you have some nuclear weapons,
but at the very least you need a BEER." -Frank Zappa

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