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by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:27:19

Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the
right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously hot
chip. I tried a superfast 90mm fan but that mother was so loud I finally
went back to the 60mm stock fan. ANd bought a small one-room air
conditioner to try and keep the gameroom cool enough so that I could get
by. That was all well and good til last night when a small trickle of
condensated water leaked from the AC unit and dribbled down into the back
of my 4 year old 19inch flat screen monitor.
There was a bright vertical flash at the center of the screen and then
all went black. I still had power, but no picture at all. As you can
see...whew....I came back this morning and it fired up after drying out I
guess. Time to re-arrange the room and get away from the leaky Air
Conditioner.

by **Malc** » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 22:11:29

I guess you realise this already but proper seating & the right amount of
thermal paste (ie very little) makes quite a difference.

For a year or so I put up with a hot CPU (around 50 C) assuming my Zalman
flower cooler just wasn't as good as the noisy HSF it replaced.
I recently had to remove the mobo, and after rebuilding the same PC it now
runs at 37 C with the same ambient temperature.

Malc.

by **Peter Ive** » Sun, 05 Oct 2003 22:42:15

>> Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the
>> right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously
>hot
>> chip.

>I guess you realise this already but proper seating & the right amount of
>thermal paste (ie very little) makes quite a difference.

>For a year or so I put up with a hot CPU (around 50 C) assuming my Zalman
>flower cooler just wasn't as good as the noisy HSF it replaced.
>I recently had to remove the mobo, and after rebuilding the same PC it now
>runs at 37 C with the same ambient temperature.

As Malc said, the compound is only there to ensure that the whole cpu
makes contact with heatsink. It is used because heatsinks for various
reasons don't make contact with the cpu right across its surface. In
theory, if they did, then you wouldn't need any compound at all. The
compound is there to fill in the gaps where the heatsink doesn't touch
the cpu so you don't need very much and using too much can actually have
an adverse affect on cpu cooling. I would imagine though that, unless
you have really made a mess of things with the compound that perhaps, as
Malc also suggested, the heatsink isn't seating itself properly, ie.
close enough to the cpu, in the first place.
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by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:59:48

> > Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the
> > right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously
> hot
> > chip.

> I guess you realise this already but proper seating & the right amount of
> thermal paste (ie very little) makes quite a difference.

> For a year or so I put up with a hot CPU (around 50 C) assuming my Zalman
> flower cooler just wasn't as good as the noisy HSF it replaced.
> I recently had to remove the mobo, and after rebuilding the same PC it now
> runs at 37 C with the same ambient temperature.

It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps
than most other boards

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 01:05:45

> Since I can't seem to neatly place a heatsink on a cpu with jussssst the
> right amount of artic silver gooey stuff on it, I have this obnoxiously hot
> chip. I tried a superfast 90mm fan but that mother was so loud I finally
> went back to the 60mm stock fan. ANd bought a small one-room air
> conditioner to try and keep the gameroom cool enough so that I could get
> by. That was all well and good til last night when a small trickle of
> condensated water leaked from the AC unit and dribbled down into the back
> of my 4 year old 19inch flat screen monitor.
> There was a bright vertical flash at the center of the screen and then
> all went black. I still had power, but no picture at all. As you can
> see...whew....I came back this morning and it fired up after drying out I
> guess. Time to re-arrange the room and get away from the leaky Air
> Conditioner.

Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze
water should not be in ze computer

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Malc** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 01:02:06

I haven't had all that many mobo's with temp sensors, but I would guess that
it's dependant on how far the sensor is from the bottom of the CPU. It may
not just be dependant on make/design, it may differ from board to board too.

Malc.

by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:20:17

> > It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps
> > than most other boards

> I haven't had all that many mobo's with temp sensors, but I would guess that
> it's dependant on how far the sensor is from the bottom of the CPU. It may
> not just be dependant on make/design, it may differ from board to board too.

I'm sure you are correct about this, as for the ASUS boards it's by
design as I believe they report core temps rather than surface temps,
but I could be wrong about that bit

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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by **Replican** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:39:50

Not my Asus P4B533. P4 1.8A runs at 34c, OC to 2.2ghz runs at 38c. That's
pretty low for a cpu OC by 400mhz.

by **Replican** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:41:24

No, surface temp. Core temps are way higher than surface temps and the cpu
would have to contain a sensor inside the core to report the core temp.

by **Replican** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:42:42

Yea, never let your wife/girlfriend stick a potted plant on top of your PC
or monitor like they like to do with stereo speakers.

by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 06:27:30

> > It also depends on your MoBo, ASUS for instance reports higher CPU temps
> > than most other boards

> Not my Asus P4B533. P4 1.8A runs at 34c, OC to 2.2ghz runs at 38c. That's
> pretty low for a cpu OC by 400mhz.

Ah yes, I guess I should have pointed out that this only concerns AMD's,
P4's have built in temp sensors and most MoBo's report roughly the same
temps on those, my mistake

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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http://www.theuspits.com

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by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 06 Oct 2003 06:30:14

> > I'm sure you are correct about this, as for the ASUS boards it's by
> > design as I believe they report core temps rather than surface temps,
> > but I could be wrong about that bit

> No, surface temp. Core temps are way higher than surface temps and the cpu
> would have to contain a sensor inside the core to report the core temp.

Silly me, of course

Beers and cheers
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by **Larr** » Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:49:58

Nothing, NOTHING beats a LaserPrinter full of Cat Pee...

Larry

> > Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze
> > water should not be in ze computer

> Yea, never let your wife/girlfriend stick a potted plant on top of your PC
> or monitor like they like to do with stereo speakers.

by **Fab** » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 00:58:21

> Nothing, NOTHING beats a LaserPrinter full of Cat Pee...

> Larry

> > > Ouch.....lucky there Herr von Henrie, you should now by now that ze
> > > water should not be in ze computer

> > Yea, never let your wife/girlfriend stick a potted plant on top of your
PC
> > or monitor like they like to do with stereo speakers.

The pee that our cat deposited into a VCR must have come very close...

And btw, most insurance policies exclude damage caused by pets!

by **Eldre** » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:48:17

That makes sense...

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