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OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

Dave Henri

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Dave Henri » Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:12:12

  So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season.  WTF?  The
'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed.
I grumble to myself and let it go...
Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road
Atlanta...and WTF????  50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by
BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race.  

  In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in
other ways...it SUCKS!  ***Em I say.  !!!  lolololol  

  This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour
European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes.
Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage.
dave henrie

Mitch_

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Mitch_ » Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:35:38

Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy.  Not
counting the minutes of ads during the race itself.

Mitch


tang

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by tang » Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:03:13



finally in europe we have a motorsport channel to watch :o) motorsTV has
been a revalation since it started broadcasting in the UK a few years
ago. right now there showing full race replays of this weekends aussie
v8 race at pukekohe. we also get live aussie coverage,live busch nascar,
live lemans endurance(both series) live BTCC, world superbikes, live AMA
superbikes plus much more. a big thumbs up from me, cant wait for live
bathurst 1000 :o)

TW

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by TW » Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:42:15



But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did
with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the
race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers
feel about this?

pw

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by pw » Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:12:51

Move to Europe Dave!  Then maybe you will also get to watch all the
"football" you want too!  Or get the Speed Channel <g>

-pw
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schoone

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by schoone » Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:44:05

Maybe they split it to allow the viewer to watch the commercials at the same
time as the race ;-)




>>Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy.  Not
>>counting the minutes of ads during the race itself.

> But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did
> with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the
> race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers
> feel about this?

Dave Henri

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Dave Henri » Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:24:01



> Maybe they split it to allow the viewer to watch the commercials at
> the same time as the race ;-)



>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:35:38 GMT, "Mitch_A"

>>>Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy.  Not
>>>counting the minutes of ads during the race itself.

>> But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did
>> with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the
>> race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers
>> feel about this?

   Here is my 'guess' as to WHY this happens.

In the 'old' days of programming,  each programmer wrote his own code for
finding, identifying, and communicating with various controllers.  The
more time a team had to work with all the various products, the more
options could be covered.
  Then Windows came along and tried to standardize many of the coding
processes.  The trouble was...the hardware was not always 100% windows
compliant and programmers would have to poke around and figure out what
was needed to get a paticular piece of hardware working.
  Gradually much of this work was being done by the hardware
manufacturers under the guise of customer support(in this case the
software companies would be the customers)  So not only were specs
distributed to the code monkeys, but actual humans were often assigned to
smooth the process, helping the hardware work with the code.
  It probably got to the point, that if a manufacturer did NOT send help
(i.e. one or more coders to integrate the hardware with the sim) then the
'team' could not justify working and debugging and consumer supporting
those products.   Hence with MS know longer even acknowledging that they
ever sold wheels, there is no-one for the EA team to contact for software
support.  No help, no ingame inclusion.

  Just my 'hunch.'  I am far far removed from any who trully would be on
the inside to know.

dave henrie

schoone

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by schoone » Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:54:59

I'll assume your replying to another thread Dave ;-)




>> Maybe they split it to allow the viewer to watch the commercials at
>> the same time as the race ;-)



>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:35:38 GMT, "Mitch_A"

>>>>Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy.  Not
>>>>counting the minutes of ads during the race itself.

>>> But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did
>>> with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the
>>> race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers
>>> feel about this?

>   Here is my 'guess' as to WHY this happens.

> In the 'old' days of programming,  each programmer wrote his own code for
> finding, identifying, and communicating with various controllers.  The
> more time a team had to work with all the various products, the more
> options could be covered.
>  Then Windows came along and tried to standardize many of the coding
> processes.  The trouble was...the hardware was not always 100% windows
> compliant and programmers would have to poke around and figure out what
> was needed to get a paticular piece of hardware working.
>  Gradually much of this work was being done by the hardware
> manufacturers under the guise of customer support(in this case the
> software companies would be the customers)  So not only were specs
> distributed to the code monkeys, but actual humans were often assigned to
> smooth the process, helping the hardware work with the code.
>  It probably got to the point, that if a manufacturer did NOT send help
> (i.e. one or more coders to integrate the hardware with the sim) then the
> 'team' could not justify working and debugging and consumer supporting
> those products.   Hence with MS know longer even acknowledging that they
> ever sold wheels, there is no-one for the EA team to contact for software
> support.  No help, no ingame inclusion.

>  Just my 'hunch.'  I am far far removed from any who trully would be on
> the inside to know.

> dave henrie

Dave Henri

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Dave Henri » Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:03:17



   Whoops...yeah...sorry.

dh

Neil Cannin

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Neil Cannin » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 03:21:57

yes its really gotten out of control,and its not just the race coverage its
TV period! theres not one bit of an original
thought in these peoples heads.but this is what happens when you market to
the no attention span younger generation.

this post was brought to you by some pill that we cant really tell you what
its for but you really need to have it.

Neil

Neil Cannin

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Neil Cannin » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 03:21:57

yes its really gotten out of control,and its not just the race coverage its
TV period! theres not one bit of an original
thought in these peoples heads.but this is what happens when you market to
the no attention span younger generation.

this post was brought to you by some pill that we cant really tell you what
its for but you really need to have it.

Neil

Neil Cannin

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by Neil Cannin » Sun, 24 Apr 2005 03:21:57

yes its really gotten out of control,and its not just the race coverage its
TV period! theres not one bit of an original
thought in these peoples heads.but this is what happens when you market to
the no attention span younger generation.

this post was brought to you by some pill that we cant really tell you what
its for but you really need to have it.

Neil

J.D. Elli

OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

by J.D. Elli » Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:00:13


>   Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road
> Atlanta...and WTF????  50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by
> BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race.  

Uhh, Dave, I believe ALMS, and possibly CCWS too, are forced to buy
their air time for coverage.  As such, they're at the whims of the
networks other properties.

-jde


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