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GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

Tony Whitle

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Tony Whitle » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

Browsing through the Classified Ads in my local paper I saw:

"Motorsport" magazine 1961-1989 10

10!  I was round there like a shot and filled the boot of my car with 30
years worth of mint condition magazines. The early ones (One Shilling and
Sixpence a copy, that's 7.5p to those to young to remember sd) make
incredible reading. "....but Owen was missing having crashed on the South
Corner seemingly through lack of brakes, he being thrown out unhurt but his
car bent in all directions". "The rear suspension upright on Clark's car
broke with 3 laps to go. He carried on and won with the wheel leaning at a
severe angle" (What was that about realism in GPL? It's certainly missing
non-terminal breakdowns that call on you to nurse the car to the finish -
there was a lot of that in 1968). The banked Monza where they had to pit for
tyres, twice. Road tests of cars like the Jaguar E Type before the 70 mph
speed limit was introduced where they report doing almost 150mph on the M1
motorway (the only one at the time) and on 'A' roads too. And the photos!
The latest in safety equipment (what we now know as Armco, unnamed then)
with spectators sitting on it, dangling their legs over the "racing" side as
the cars flash past. A driver sitting upright in the***pit (no seatbelts,
of course) because burning petrol was leaking down the back of his seat -
for 5 laps! And *several* pictures of Jack Brabham sideways - there was a
joke that went something like "And Brabham is coming round the bend."
"Really? Which way this time: forwards, sideways, or backwards?"

I've got many months of reading ahead of me, I've only scratched the surface
so far. I may transcribe some of the highlights on to a web page if there is
any interest and someone can assure me that I won't be breaking copyright -
doesn't that only last 25 years anyway?.

Tony Whitley
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Mtank

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Mtank » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

You're a fortunate man, I envy your treasure!  You may be interested in a site
that contains Motorsport race reports of the '67 season.
http://www.isanski.freeserve.co.uk/  He too was unsure of any copy snarls and
has a very plaintive intro.  25 years?  Are you speaking of copyrights or
prison sentences?  :-)

Michae

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Michae » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00


phome.afreeserve.mco.uk says...

- Good, aren't they:-) I've got some from the '67 and '68 seasons, Dennis
Jenkinson writes in a totally different way from today's GP journalists.

- Michael

Matthew Birger Knutse

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Matthew Birger Knutse » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00



> phome.afreeserve.mco.uk says...
> > Browsing through the Classified Ads in my local paper I saw:

> > "Motorsport" magazine 1961-1989 10

> > I've got many months of reading ahead of me, I've only scratched the surface
> > so far. I may transcribe some of the highlights on to a web page if there is
> > any interest and someone can assure me that I won't be breaking copyright -
> > doesn't that only last 25 years anyway?.

> - Good, aren't they:-) I've got some from the '67 and '68 seasons, Dennis
> Jenkinson writes in a totally different way from today's GP journalists.

> - Michael

And check the comments from the drivers, something that has also changed a tad..:)

Matt

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Bruce Kennewel

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

Copyright is infinite I think.
It's patents that have a fixed lifetime, Tony.

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>Browsing through the Classified Ads in my local paper I saw:

>"Motorsport" magazine 1961-1989 10

>10!  I was round there like a shot and filled the boot of my car with 30
>years worth of mint condition magazines. The early ones (One Shilling and
>Sixpence a copy, that's 7.5p to those to young to remember sd) make
>incredible reading. "....but Owen was missing having crashed on the South
>Corner seemingly through lack of brakes, he being thrown out unhurt but his
>car bent in all directions". "The rear suspension upright on Clark's car
>broke with 3 laps to go. He carried on and won with the wheel leaning at a
>severe angle" (What was that about realism in GPL? It's certainly missing
>non-terminal breakdowns that call on you to nurse the car to the finish -
>there was a lot of that in 1968). The banked Monza where they had to pit
for
>tyres, twice. Road tests of cars like the Jaguar E Type before the 70 mph
>speed limit was introduced where they report doing almost 150mph on the M1
>motorway (the only one at the time) and on 'A' roads too. And the photos!
>The latest in safety equipment (what we now know as Armco, unnamed then)
>with spectators sitting on it, dangling their legs over the "racing" side
as
>the cars flash past. A driver sitting upright in the***pit (no seatbelts,
>of course) because burning petrol was leaking down the back of his seat -
>for 5 laps! And *several* pictures of Jack Brabham sideways - there was a
>joke that went something like "And Brabham is coming round the bend."
>"Really? Which way this time: forwards, sideways, or backwards?"

>I've got many months of reading ahead of me, I've only scratched the
surface
>so far. I may transcribe some of the highlights on to a web page if there
is
>any interest and someone can assure me that I won't be breaking copyright -
>doesn't that only last 25 years anyway?.

>Tony Whitley
>Please remove 'spam' to reply.

Ken Nicols

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Ken Nicols » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 25 May 1999 22:29:59 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"


>Copyright is infinite I think.

Copyright lasts until 70 (75?) years after the person's death, IIRC.

I can't remember the figures for them - maybe about 20 or so years?
I've got a patent pending, but it was all in Japanese and someone
asked me to sign up, so I did anyway. I still don't know what it is
I've invented.

Ken

Aubre

GPL and "Motorsport" magazines

by Aubre » Wed, 26 May 1999 04:00:00

Sounds like you haven't played GPL much in the PRO or GRAND
PRIX settings with realistic damage.  Bent suspensions are
almost routine unless you're an extremely consistent driver.
 Try driving the Lotus around Monaco for 10 laps and you'll
see what I'm talking about.  Just grazing the hay bales can
have you holding the wheel at a 90 degree angle just to go
straight.

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