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This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

Rory S. Brow

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Rory S. Brow » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00

When does the millennium officially begin? check web site
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
(& century & decade)

1 January 2001

"We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the
question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd
that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has
been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present
century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out
that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the
want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have
stated"
The Times, 26 December 1799

All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium
officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the
hype would have you believe.  The "last of the millennium" or the "first of
the millennium"

Why?
The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are
regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party!

Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system.  It started at
1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001!

BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes
effect

Where?
The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people are
confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line.  Each new day
starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT.  But
it is only a new day in that local time zone.

A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in
Washington DC, USA.  This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal
Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean
Time).  It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date
Line)

When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal
Day and the whole world can celebrate.

That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in
the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England.  It is also the point
of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the
Greenwich Meridian which can be seen on all modern World Maps.

All time and space on planet earth is measured by 2 reference lines. The
lines of longitude based on the Greenwich Meridian (0 Longitude) and the
Equator (0 Latitude).  You can express where you are precisely by your
latitude and longitude and in time by Greenwich Mean Time.

Addition References
RECOMMENDED: There is a complete and fascinating article called A
Chronology - Explanation of Times through various eras of history
For the full story see the Millennium Newsletter and more information from
the Royal Observatory Greenwich

--
Rory S. Brown

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David Er

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by David Er » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00

this entire subject is irritating and off topic
plonk



> When does the millennium officially begin? check web site
> http://greenwich2000.com/time/
> (& century & decade)

> 1 January 2001

> "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon
the
> question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd
> that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has
> been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present
> century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out
> that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes
the
> want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have
> stated"
> The Times, 26 December 1799

> All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium
> officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of
the
> hype would have you believe.  The "last of the millennium" or the "first
of
> the millennium"

> Why?
> The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are
> regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party!

> Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system.  It started at
> 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001!

> BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes
> effect

> Where?
> The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people
are
> confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line.  Each new
day
> starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT.  But
> it is only a new day in that local time zone.

> A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in
> Washington DC, USA.  This Universal Day operates to World Time or
Universal
> Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich
Mean
> Time).  It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date
> Line)

> When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new
Universal
> Day and the whole world can celebrate.

> That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope
in
> the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England.  It is also the point
> of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the
> Greenwich Meridian which can be seen on all modern World Maps.

> All time and space on planet earth is measured by 2 reference lines. The
> lines of longitude based on the Greenwich Meridian (0 Longitude) and the
> Equator (0 Latitude).  You can express where you are precisely by your
> latitude and longitude and in time by Greenwich Mean Time.

> Addition References
> RECOMMENDED: There is a complete and fascinating article called A
> Chronology - Explanation of Times through various eras of history
> For the full story see the Millennium Newsletter and more information from
> the Royal Observatory Greenwich

> --
> Rory S. Brown

> Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator
> "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators"
> Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com

> Home Designed Computers by Rory
> "Custom Computers for your needs!"
> Visit www.directcomputers.com

> Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street
> Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1
> Phone 604-671-5997
> Fax 604-930-9983



> Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to:
> the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and
> The Kool Racing Challenge Tour
> Visit www.players-racing.com

Andre Warrin

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Andre Warrin » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Actually I don't care if it's the new millennium or not, I had a great
party last night! :)

Andre

Gary Silverma

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Gary Silverma » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Instead of spending the past day digging up all this info, you could have
simply enjoyed New Year's Eve/Day like everybody else.

--
Gary

Michael Barlo

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Michael Barlo » Sun, 02 Jan 2000 04:00:00


> When does the millennium officially begin? check web site
> http://greenwich2000.com/time/
> (& century & decade)

> 1 January 2001

> "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the
> question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd
> that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has
> been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present
> century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out
> that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the
> want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have
> stated"
> The Times, 26 December 1799

> All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium
> officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the
> hype would have you believe.  The "last of the millennium" or the "first of
> the millennium"

> Why?
> The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are
> regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party!

> Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system.  It started at
> 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001!

> BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes
> effect

> Where?
> The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people are
> confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line.  Each new day
> starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT.  But
> it is only a new day in that local time zone.

> A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in
> Washington DC, USA.  This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal
> Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean
> Time).  It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date
> Line)

> When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal
> Day and the whole world can celebrate.

> That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in
> the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England.  It is also the point
> of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the
> Greenwich Meridian which can be seen on all modern World Maps.

> All time and space on planet earth is measured by 2 reference lines. The
> lines of longitude based on the Greenwich Meridian (0 Longitude) and the
> Equator (0 Latitude).  You can express where you are precisely by your
> latitude and longitude and in time by Greenwich Mean Time.

> Addition References
> RECOMMENDED: There is a complete and fascinating article called A
> Chronology - Explanation of Times through various eras of history
> For the full story see the Millennium Newsletter and more information from
> the Royal Observatory Greenwich

> --
> Rory S. Brown

> Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator
> "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators"
> Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com

> Home Designed Computers by Rory
> "Custom Computers for your needs!"
> Visit www.directcomputers.com

> Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street
> Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1
> Phone 604-671-5997
> Fax 604-930-9983



> Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to:
> the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and
> The Kool Racing Challenge Tour
> Visit www.players-racing.com

        I should keep my mouth shut but I figure, "what the hell" ;-)  The
calendar doesn't have the year "0" because of a mistake in
calculations.  If I remember right, the Gregorian<sp?> calendar that we
use was finished in the 1500's.  Someone goofed and never put the "0"
year in there.  Plus, it was just a guess that Jesus was born 2000 years
ago.  The next best guess is something like 3 or 4 BC.  So, when does
the new milenium<sp> begin?  Our calendar says Jan-1 2000.  The Media
believes it's Jan. 1, 2000.  Others believe Jan. 1, 2001.  And still
others would say it is officially 1000 years after Jesus was born, or in
our case 2000 year.  So that would make it 3 or 4 years ago (maybe).

        The best thing to say about when the new millennium starts is to say..
when do you believe it starts?  The answer given will always be right to
the person answering.

Sounds good to me anyhow;-)
Mike
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gregor..

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by gregor.. » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

HAH! Call me a fool huh? Man, just how ignorant are you? You'll believe
an editor because he sides with your views? Heck, he wrote that just 300
years after folks thought the world was flat and when folks were saying
they'd reached the peak of what could be invented. And you think a 200
year old commentary is going to change the fact that the Gregorian
calendar is made up and didn't come in to existance until the 600's? Yet
you want me to believe that the Millenium is next year? *** man, start
counting at 1BC and 2000 is the Millenium based on, yes, the Gregorian
calendar... who decided we started the millenium count at 1AD? YOU? Time?
Hell, for some reason folks tend to ignore 1BC like "all time" started at
1AD or something. Time has been going on long before any sort of calendar
tried to measure it. So, if the "World" decides to celebrate the
Millenium at 2000, they CAN, there's 1000 years passed at some point,
let's see 1999,1998, 1997, etc. YES, yes, I can count backwards to 1000
years, so yes, 2000 is a Millenium. I know you know that a Millenium is
1000 years, look it up in the encyclopedia or dictionary, its 1000 years,
and neither say its 1000 years starting at 1AD.

And if you use the Common Era calendar (or Solar Calendar) as many
scientific communities use you'll count from 1000 to 1999 as they
adjusted for the missing 0 in the gregorian calendar by aligning 0 to
1BC. SO, celebrate it next year if you want, but a Millenium is 1000
years, period, no matter where you start counting, so start counting at
4AD and have a Millenium party in 2004. Most folks don't know "why" this
is the Millenium, nor do they care, and I don't really care, I just hate
seeing ignorance spewed out based on what you perceive as the truth. They
created this piece of ***called a calendar, and BACK DATED the stupid
thing to try to match the birth of Jesus. The only reason at that time
they didn't use 0 is because they didn't have a 0 in the system to denote
that, so "they" went 1BC to 1AD. If I made up the calendar today, would I
count back to 1BC or would I put a 0 in it? I think a zero would be
there. And last time I checked, not a single one of my calendars said
"based on the Gregorian system". You and many others assume that today we
are basing time measurement on the Gregorian calendar. Says who? Do you
think the Muslim's use the Gregorian calendar? What about Atheists? You
think Atheists are going to believe in "that" calendar when its based on
a CHRISTIAN birthdate?

And for the other moron, Leaky Valve... when they say decade of the 80's
they mean 1980 to 1989... 70's=70 to 78... 90's=90 to 99... so apparently
"they" do start counting at ZERO muther***er. I'd love to see you
convince your elementary class that the Decade of the 80's was 1981 to
1990. Geezus pete are you stupid trying to convince us that we start
counting century's at 1. The 1800's... oh wait, I guess that's 1801 to
1900. HAHAHA! Go crawl back under the rock where you left your brain.
What Rory said is right, the Millenium is next year if you count from
1AD, but you're arguement is stupid and ignorant and doesn't help his
out.

Both of you are seeking to support a futile arguement. The Calendar is
made up, and any sort of time measurement is subjective, so have your
opinion on when you think it is, and let others have their's, but don't
sit around trying to make it out like you're right and they are wrong.
You're both right and you're both wrong, it's all opinion and it'll get
you nowhere, so go party next year and celebrate the Millenium then, and
then celebrate the next year, etc. Open your eyes and see that things are
not black-n-white, they are only shades of grey.

Greg



Stif

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Stif » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'm one of the four hor*** and we have planned the apocalypse for next
year. We had a hell of a time deciding when the millenium was too but we
figured that everyone would  be less prepared for it next year as opposed to
this one. So see you all next year!
A.T. Stiff (one of the fab four "apocalypse" hor***)

Daxe Rexfor

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Daxe Rexfor » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


>HAH! Call me a fool huh? Man, just how ignorant are you?

This was wonderful.  Thanks.

:o)

~daxe

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Joe6

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Joe6 » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Jesus. Someone is so ana

Joe McGinn
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Leaky_Valv

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Leaky_Valv » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Faced with such a concise, beautifully structured and eloquently-worded argument
as that it is simply impossible to create counter-point. Game, set and match, Mr.
Gregorian.

Next patient, please.


> HAH! Call me a fool huh? Man, just how ignorant are you? You'll believe
> an editor because he sides with your views? Heck, he wrote that just 300
> years after folks thought the world was flat and when folks were saying
> they'd reached the peak of what could be invented. And you think a 200
> year old commentary is going to change the fact that the Gregorian
> calendar is made up and didn't come in to existance until the 600's? Yet
> you want me to believe that the Millenium is next year? *** man, start
> counting at 1BC and 2000 is the Millenium based on, yes, the Gregorian
> calendar... who decided we started the millenium count at 1AD? YOU? Time?
> Hell, for some reason folks tend to ignore 1BC like "all time" started at
> 1AD or something. Time has been going on long before any sort of calendar
> tried to measure it. So, if the "World" decides to celebrate the
> Millenium at 2000, they CAN, there's 1000 years passed at some point,
> let's see 1999,1998, 1997, etc. YES, yes, I can count backwards to 1000
> years, so yes, 2000 is a Millenium. I know you know that a Millenium is
> 1000 years, look it up in the encyclopedia or dictionary, its 1000 years,
> and neither say its 1000 years starting at 1AD.

> And if you use the Common Era calendar (or Solar Calendar) as many
> scientific communities use you'll count from 1000 to 1999 as they
> adjusted for the missing 0 in the gregorian calendar by aligning 0 to
> 1BC. SO, celebrate it next year if you want, but a Millenium is 1000
> years, period, no matter where you start counting, so start counting at
> 4AD and have a Millenium party in 2004. Most folks don't know "why" this
> is the Millenium, nor do they care, and I don't really care, I just hate
> seeing ignorance spewed out based on what you perceive as the truth. They
> created this piece of ***called a calendar, and BACK DATED the stupid
> thing to try to match the birth of Jesus. The only reason at that time
> they didn't use 0 is because they didn't have a 0 in the system to denote
> that, so "they" went 1BC to 1AD. If I made up the calendar today, would I
> count back to 1BC or would I put a 0 in it? I think a zero would be
> there. And last time I checked, not a single one of my calendars said
> "based on the Gregorian system". You and many others assume that today we
> are basing time measurement on the Gregorian calendar. Says who? Do you
> think the Muslim's use the Gregorian calendar? What about Atheists? You
> think Atheists are going to believe in "that" calendar when its based on
> a CHRISTIAN birthdate?

> And for the other moron, Leaky Valve... when they say decade of the 80's
> they mean 1980 to 1989... 70's=70 to 78... 90's=90 to 99... so apparently
> "they" do start counting at ZERO muther***er. I'd love to see you
> convince your elementary class that the Decade of the 80's was 1981 to
> 1990. Geezus pete are you stupid trying to convince us that we start
> counting century's at 1. The 1800's... oh wait, I guess that's 1801 to
> 1900. HAHAHA! Go crawl back under the rock where you left your brain.
> What Rory said is right, the Millenium is next year if you count from
> 1AD, but you're arguement is stupid and ignorant and doesn't help his
> out.

> Both of you are seeking to support a futile arguement. The Calendar is
> made up, and any sort of time measurement is subjective, so have your
> opinion on when you think it is, and let others have their's, but don't
> sit around trying to make it out like you're right and they are wrong.
> You're both right and you're both wrong, it's all opinion and it'll get
> you nowhere, so go party next year and celebrate the Millenium then, and
> then celebrate the next year, etc. Open your eyes and see that things are
> not black-n-white, they are only shades of grey.

> Greg



> > When does the millennium officially begin? check web site
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > (& century & decade)

> > 1 January 2001

> > "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the
> > question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd
> > that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has
> > been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present
> > century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out
> > that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the
> > want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have
> > stated"
> > The Times, 26 December 1799

> > All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium
> > officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the
> > hype would have you believe.  The "last of the millennium" or the "first of
> > the millennium"

> > Why?
> > The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are
> > regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party!

> > Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system.  It started at
> > 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001!

> > BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes
> > effect

> > Where?
> > The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people are
> > confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line.  Each new day
> > starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT.  But
> > it is only a new day in that local time zone.

> > A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in
> > Washington DC, USA.  This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal
> > Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean
> > Time).  It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date
> > Line)

> > When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal
> > Day and the whole world can celebrate.

> > That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in
> > the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England.  It is also the point
> > of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the

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Leaky_Valv

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Leaky_Valv » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

"ana"?  What's an "ana"....... the front half of a large South American
snake?


> >Addition References...

> Jesus. Someone is so ana

> Joe McGinn
> _________________________
> GA-Sports Writer
> http://www.ga-sports.com/

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Bob Curti

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Bob Curti » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Don't forget me!  I'm the fifth (and ignored) backup horseman.


> I'm one of the four hor*** and we have planned the apocalypse for next
> year. We had a hell of a time deciding when the millenium was too but we
> figured that everyone would  be less prepared for it next year as opposed to
> this one. So see you all next year!
> A.T. Stiff (one of the fab four "apocalypse" hor***)


> > Instead of spending the past day digging up all this info, you could have
> > simply enjoyed New Year's Eve/Day like everybody else.

> > --
> > Gary

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skin"
Joe6

This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

by Joe6 » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Jesus. Someone either has WAY to much time on their hands, or is so
***retentive that their ass could be used as a factory to turn coal
into diamonds.

Joe


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