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Attention GP2 Experts

Chief091

Attention GP2 Experts

by Chief091 » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Yes, I have been out of touch lately, so I don't know if this question has
been asked before.  I have the T2 wheel, and I am having difficulty in
trying to set it up to use it in GP2.  Now, I can use my joystick, but not
the wheel.  Can someone please send me some instructions on how to get
this damn thing to work.  If you could, e-mail me rather than posting to
the group.

Thanks in advance,
Gary

Andreas Part

Attention GP2 Experts

by Andreas Part » Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Chief09183 wrote:
> =
> Yes, I have been out of touch lately, so I don't know if this question ha=
s
> been asked before.  I have the T2 wheel, and I am having difficulty in
> trying to set it up to use it in GP2.  Now, I can use my joystick, but no=
t
> the wheel.  Can someone please send me some instructions on how to get
> this damn thing to work.  If you could, e-mail me rather than posting to
> the group.
> =
> Thanks in advance,
> Gary

Hi Gary,
the same was my question. Here is what Eric posted me on that.

Cheers Andreas

Andreas Partie wrote:

> Eric Cote wrote:

> > Andreas Partie wrote:

> > > Is there anybody who have car setups optimized for driving with the T=
2?
> > > please let me know.
> > > --
> > > Mit freundlichen Gruessen

> > > Andreas Partie

> > Hello Andreas, my name is Eric,you're not the only one asking this
> > question,so instaed of explaining all the thing you ahve to know how to=
> > set your T2, i will send you a copy of my xxx.CON which will bring you
> > the right configuration.

> > The only thing you'll have to do is calibrating your joystick.
> > IMPORTANT NOTE: for an obscure reason why i can't explain, when it will=
> > be time  to calibrate your pedals START WITH THE BRAKE FIRST THEN YOU
> > CAN CALIBRATE THE ACCELERATOR.

> > The file include in this document is called FORMULA1.CON all you have
> > to do is copying under the subdirectory GPSAVES.

> > PLease tell me how it went GOOD LUCK

> >     ---------------------------------------------------------------

> > =BE=A1=3D=85=02

> Hello Eric,

> thank you for your message, unfortenately I could not manage to read your=
> file. There are only a few letters to see in your mail (here a copy:
> =BE=A1=3D=85=02).
> As well as i like to know how to set up the T2 probably I would like to
> know if you have some car set up's to drive with (you know front wing,
> ...)
> Because it seems that there is a need for different car set up's to run
> your car fast.
> I could not reach fast times with Joystick or Keybord setup.

> --
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen

> Andreas Partie

Hello Andreas,  sorry about that, can't find how it did that, however
i've tried again (sending the FORMULA1.CON) hope it will work. Are you
using NETSCAPE as a browser ???

So i'll send you how to set your T2:

1-Under control device choose NOT USED.
2-Go at ADVANCE
3-   STEERING DEVICE: JOYSTICK A HORIZONTAL
                MODE:ANALOG
  LOW SENSIVITY ZONE:45-55% (my preference is 50%)--> the lower the #,
                     the higher will be the steering response.
       STEERING HELP: OFF
       OPPOSITE LOCK: ON --> this is going to help you when you exit a
                            corner and if you start to oversteer, you
                            can correct it.If you choose OFF, it will be
                            very difficult to correct oversteer.
            MAX LOCK:16-19 degrees (My preference for all circuit is 18)
                                    This what is called LOCK to LOCK
   REDUCE WITH SPEED:60-75% (My preference is 65%)--> The higher the #
                             the lower the sensitivity of your steering
                             will be at increasing speed.

4-ACCELERATION DEVICE: JOYSTICK B HORIZONTAL
        LOW SENSIVITY: 100% --> The higher the #, more it will be
                                progressive when you accelerate.
                                (same thing apply to BRAKE DEVICE)
                 MODE: ANALOG

5-       BRAKE DEVICE: JOYSTICK B HORIZONTAL
                 MODE: ANALOG
        LOW SENSIVITY: 100%

6-      CLUTCH DEVICE: USE GEAR CHANGE (default value)
          SENSITIVITY: 50% (default value)

7-        GEAR CHANGE: CHANGE UP:JOYSTICK A FIRE 1
                     CHANGE DOWN:JOYSTICK A FIRE 2

note: JOYSTICK B FIRE 1 & 2 are the 2 red BUTTON on your steering
      housing.
note 2: There's no JOYSTICK A & B VERTICAL (which could be use has a
        CLUTCH DEVICE. However it's possible to build one, although
        i'm not sure if there's any wire that are unused at the
        joystick/game PORT. We should check that with Thrusmasters.
note 3:Are you using a GAMECARD (like THRUSMASTERS ICM GAME CARD)?
       IF NO: all the SENSITIVITY will have to be adjusted to your
       need.

Now concerning the setups on your car: Every track has different setups.
1- However a good rule of thumb is having more WING ANGLE at the rear
than the front.
2-The same applies to SPRING RATE (put more in front than rear).This way
your car will be understeering (which is desirable at some extent).
3-ANTIROLL BAR: try 2000-4000 lbs/in at front
                try 50-250 lbs/in at rear
  note: you will have to play with these numbers and see how
        it's reacting.
  note 2:these change are most effective at LOW and MEDIUM speed,but has
         effect at HIGH SPEED CORNERING
4- DAMPERS: try to use level 2 setup:
            LOW SPEED: always use a big # at front and low # at rear
                       ex: 15-22 at front , 7-12 at rear
           HIGH SPEED: Try to use front and rear very close to each
                       other.
 note: REBOUND DAMPER: % should be about 65-75% of the # of BUMP DAMPER
                      ex: REBOUND DAMPER (front):15 and BUMP DAMPERS:19
 please note: these are only example,every track has different needs.

5- RIDE HEIGHT(important):try to use always the lowest # as possible
                          because the lower the car the higher will be
                          the undercar downforce (more cornering speed)
 note: the front RIDE HEIGHT will be around 27-33 mm depending of TRACKS
       the rear RIDE HEIGHT will be arond 45-55 mm depending of TRACKs

 note 2:when modifying the height, always try to compare with the GRAPH
        with two different setups.
 note 3:You can actually change how the car reacts (under/oversteer) in
        high speed corners, independly of the rest of your setup.
6-PACKERS: this affect the TRAVELLING of your suspension (USEFUL in S
           type CORNERS) like rapid change of steering direction.
  note: If TRACK is very bumpy you will have to decrease the PACKERS
        HEIGHT in mm
  note 2: this is the trickiest adjustment, always modify slowly without
          modifying anything else and see the result-->TRACK TIME and
          again the GRAPH (use SUSPENSION TRAVEL (each wheel)
  note 3: when you increase the PACKERS again check SUSPENSION TRAVEL
          at the GRAPH and try to have some suspension travel both front
          and rear (FRONT should be lower than REAR)

TRICKS: if you already do not know, when practicing use FETCH GRAPH and
        then VIEW GRAPH --> this way you can see the change without
        going out of the track ie:you don't have to SAVE HOT LAP to view
        the GRAPH.
2- ALWAYS ZOOM IN the GRAPH in horizontal mode (X32) and CLICK MAP.
   This way you can check all parameters very closely.

3- Don't forget to save SETUP as often as possible (with different
   names).And when saving HOTLAPS use same names according to the same
   SETUP --> thsi way you will eventually see the correlation.
4- I can say that i'm using alot of GRAPH/SETUP change to increase my
   LAP time.
5- You'll find out, that the RACE AND QUALIFYING SETUP are different
   because of the heavier fuel LOAD.

NB: if you download any SETUP file or HOTLAP from any WWW site,for a
    specific track,you will find that most setups won't fit your
    driving. I have found that every persons as different way to drive,
    and most importantly every PC & STEERING device are different,so
    from my personal experience it never really fits my driving.
    Altough you can actually find some valuable information from these
    files (how to take corners,gear,setups)

That's all Andreas, hope it will be useful, i just want to mention that
i'm far from beeing an expert, i'm learning like you and the rest of us
all. Eric

-- =

Mit freundlichen Gruessen

Andreas Partie


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