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OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

Dave Henri

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by Dave Henri » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:39

   Well that low life piece of soapscum that owns Indy failed in his
attempt to buy the CART leftovers.  So now he's poaching the individual
teams of OWRS...good bye  Fernandez...

dave henrie

J.D. Elli

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by J.D. Elli » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:10:22


Gee Dave, maybe Adrian wants to actually race this year. ;-) ;-) ;-)

-jde

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Jason Moy

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by Jason Moy » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:01:04

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:10:22 -0500, "J.D. Ellis"


>Gee Dave, maybe Adrian wants to actually race this year. ;-) ;-) ;-)

Fernandez is in full-on Al Unser Jr mode.  That point where it's been
so long since you've been competitive that you're willing to race in
front of 10,000 people on ovals instead of 300,000 at your home track.

Jason

J.D. Elli

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by J.D. Elli » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:06:40


> On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:10:22 -0500, "J.D. Ellis"

> >Gee Dave, maybe Adrian wants to actually race this year. ;-) ;-) ;-)

> Fernandez is in full-on Al Unser Jr mode.  That point where it's been
> so long since you've been competitive that you're willing to race in
> front of 10,000 people on ovals instead of 300,000 at your home track.

There's also the novel thought that, being a team owner, he has numerous
families counting on the team's continued existence.  If no one wants to
ante up to sponsor the team in a series that seems precarious at best, then
why not take the route that allows the team to continue operation as-is.

The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-)

-jde

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mcewe

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by mcewe » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:31:36

AF already had a foot in both camps.  I suspect the fact that his
sponsors wanted to get seen on TV in more then a 16 car grid might
have played a factor.
Jason Moy

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by Jason Moy » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:06:36

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "J.D. Ellis"


>The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-)

Are you implying the series with the higher attendance by a factor of
10 is losing? =)

Jason

J.D. Elli

OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by J.D. Elli » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:42:09


> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "J.D. Ellis"

> >The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-)

> Are you implying the series with the higher attendance by a factor of
> 10 is losing? =)

Considering said series appears to be on very shaky ground, yes. :-)

A month from Long Beach, and the promoter is worried about exactly how many
cars OWRS might rustle up, or whether he should pursue a last-minute swap to
GA, vintage, etc.

While CART had the superior product, they did as much damage to themselves
through mismanagement and arrogance as Tony George did burning through his
inheritance and the Indy mystique.  All they accomplished was aiding
NASCAR's ascension in the public eye.

I don't give much of a ***either way these days.  They both have issues,
and this now 8 yr pissing match got old 5 yrs ago.  The only reason I went
to Mid-Ohio's CART weekend last year was to watch SPEED Touring Car. ;-)

It's all quite sad considering all the fond CART memories I have from
growing up. :-(

-jde

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OT: Evil grows even in defeat...

by mcewe » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:57:26


> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:06:40 -0500, "J.D. Ellis"

> >The "war" is effectively over, Dave just can't let it go. ;-)

> Are you implying the series with the higher attendance by a factor of
> 10 is losing? =)

Sponsors don't give a hoot about on-track attendance (except maybe for
atmosphere), they're interested in TV viewing audience.  Sponsor's
decide were racers race.

I've noticed over the last couple of years that the TV directors at
both IRL and CART events have been pretty careful not to do too many
wide shots of events where the attendance is poor, lot's of tight
track shots.  But they make a BIG fuss when CART went to Canada and
Mexico and the stands were full.


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