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Dennis Crol

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by Dennis Crol » Mon, 09 Sep 2002 05:39:19

I play Nascar 2002.  I have a Geforce 2 video card.  About 3 or 4 minutes
into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the
sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame
rates.  After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I
dont see it again while playing.  The currious thing is that I look in
system information and the video card, network card and sound card are all
on IRQ 11.  It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it
shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is
supposed to be a non share slot.  I have moved the network card to slots 2,
4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11.  The question is.  Is this
normal or could this be causeing the stuttering.

System
Asus a7v133
AMD 1.1
512 meg
gefore 2 32 meg
network card
sound blaster Live

Biz

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by Biz » Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:21:27

It is completely normal if you are running XP, you can give cards their own IRQ's by removing ACPI
support.
--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


> I play Nascar 2002.  I have a Geforce 2 video card.  About 3 or 4 minutes
> into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the
> sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame
> rates.  After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I
> dont see it again while playing.  The currious thing is that I look in
> system information and the video card, network card and sound card are all
> on IRQ 11.  It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it
> shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is
> supposed to be a non share slot.  I have moved the network card to slots 2,
> 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11.  The question is.  Is this
> normal or could this be causeing the stuttering.

> System
> Asus a7v133
> AMD 1.1
> 512 meg
> gefore 2 32 meg
> network card
> sound blaster Live

Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Mon, 09 Sep 2002 10:28:29


own IRQ's by removing ACPI
   Every motherboard manufacturer will say there is no problem with sharing
IRQ's.  But annecdotal evidence continues to show that video and sound and
netcards shoud never ever ever share.  I guess if it still runs, even with
hard drive thrashing and video and sound corruption, it's NOT a problem as
long as it gets through that and motors on...(yikes sentence run-on!!!)
  Depending on your OS, there are various things you can do to adjust the
irq's...what do you have?
dave henrie

Larr

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by Larr » Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:39:13

The IRQ's being the same is completely normal under Windows 2000/XP.  This
is ACPI in action, and you should leave it alone.

Your problem lies elsewhere, and my first guess would be some sort of
utility running in the background.

AntiVirus ?
Norton Utilities?
Scanner software?

etc...

-Larry


Dennis Crol

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by Dennis Crol » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:21:44

I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does it.
By the way I am running Me


> The IRQ's being the same is completely normal under Windows 2000/XP.  This
> is ACPI in action, and you should leave it alone.

> Your problem lies elsewhere, and my first guess would be some sort of
> utility running in the background.

> AntiVirus ?
> Norton Utilities?
> Scanner software?

> etc...

> -Larry



> > I play Nascar 2002.  I have a Geforce 2 video card.  About 3 or 4
minutes
> > into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the
> > sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame
> > rates.  After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I
> > dont see it again while playing.  The currious thing is that I look in
> > system information and the video card, network card and sound card are
all
> > on IRQ 11.  It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it
> > shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is
> > supposed to be a non share slot.  I have moved the network card to slots
> 2,
> > 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11.  The question is.  Is
> this
> > normal or could this be causeing the stuttering.

> > System
> > Asus a7v133
> > AMD 1.1
> > 512 meg
> > gefore 2 32 meg
> > network card
> > sound blaster Live

Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:45:38


         An old trick we used to use was to move the sound card as far away
from the vid card as possible.  Put it in the last slot even if you have to
move around some other cards.  Also you don't really want a net card sharing
an IRQ with the sound,  try shifting things so your modem or some other card
is stuck sharing.
dave henrie

Ian

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by Ian » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 03:11:10

Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ?
They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing

--

Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>


Dennis Crol

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by Dennis Crol » Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:24:46

how do you turn off system restore and pc health


> Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ?
> They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing

> --

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>



> > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does
it.
> > By the way I am running Me

MadDAW

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by MadDAW » Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:40:54

What I did with ME it control the IRQs was to turn off Plug and Play O/S in
the System bios. This reverts the control back to the motherboard. Then
moving the cards around usually does the trick. With my bios I can see the
IRQ assignments on boot up without starting windows so its a pretty quick
job to find the right locations. However it sounds like something is trying
to access your hard drive. If the restore and PC health doesn't do it you
may want to try tweaking some other memory settings. I had to that with a
program called cacheman back in Win98. FWIW I never had any issues with PC
health, and system restore. As many times as I used restore I'm glad I
didn't have it turned off.

MadDAWG

Ian

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by Ian » Fri, 13 Sep 2002 01:48:15

This is a quote from a mail that was posted here some time ago.

"10 modifications that I have made to Windows ME to gain SIGNIFICANT
increase in speed, performance and security. I have tested these
settings for over a month and haven't encountered any problems.
After applying these tweaks and rebooting the free resources are 99%.

Before you decide you actually want to give up these features for the
extra speed you should read this page.
http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2000/sept00/09-05winme.asp

Keep in mind that the developers and testers for these features never
encountered a worm or trojan or they may have found that PC Health and
Restore will reinstall a trojan because it wants to take you back to the
previous state before your "cleaning" modifications were made. Their
ideas are good but unfortunately they didn't take these problems into
account. It's also obvious they use very fast computers and didn't
notice the deterioration of speed (compared to 9x) with all these
features turned on.

1. Disable System Restore.
Open Control Panel -> System -> Performance Tab -> File System - >
Troubleshooting area -> Disable System Restore
(While you are in this window click on the Floppy Disk tab and uncheck the
box so the system doesn't check for a NEW floppy drive every time it
starts.)
~~
2. Uninstall Pc Health.
Start / Run  "\windows\pchealth\support\pchsetup /uninstall"
~~
3. Turn off Automatic Updating. (This will hog your modem for 30
mins every day when you first go on line if you don't turn it off.)
Start / Settings / Taskbar / Advanced
then check Expand Control Panel and close and go to
Start / Settings / Control Panel / Automatic Updates  and turn OFF Automatic
Updating
~~
4. Use ram memory rather than the swap file. (The system needs OVER 64 megs
of ram.)
Start / Search / Files  type and enter: "system.ini"  then click on it
and open it in Notepad and add this line after [386Enh] (without quotes)
"ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1"
~~
5. Set file system to cache about 20 times higher than its default
setting. Copy and paste these lines to Notepad and name the file
MaxCached.reg then click on MaxCached.reg from Windows Explorer and say
Yes you want to add that information to your registry. (You must
set Notepad to "all files" when you save it or it will save as text.)

-------------------------------- copy
below ----------------------------------
REGEDIT4


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS

"NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:80,00,00,00
------------------------------- to
above ------------------------------------
~~
6. Disable these settings in the start menu.
Start / Run  type and enter:  "Msconfig"
then click on Startup  and  UNCHECK PcHealth, StateMgr, SchedulingAgent
and Taskmon Then allow the system to reboot so all these changes will
take effect.
~~
7.  Run Windows Explorer and click on Tools / Folder Options / View and
select "Show hidden files and folders"  then  browse the c: drive and
delete the _Restore  folder.  Hold your shift key so it doesn't move it
to the recycle bin while you press del. This folder can have hundreds of
megs of temp files if you have been running ME for a while with the
system Restore and PC Health on. If you get an error message saying
there is a sharing violation you haven't successfully turned off Pc
Health and Restore. The _Restore folder should NOT appears again in the
future (unless you update a key Microsoft program like IE).
~~
8. See if anything unnecessary is running all the time.
Press CTRL + ALT + DEl  at the same time, after you have first booted
up and see what programs are loaded. You may find several programs running
that don't need to run all the time. Most of them, if actually needed, can
be loaded from the Start / Programs menu.
~~
9.  Don't let windows run HTA, SHS and VBS Script automatically.
Those file associations allow viruses to infect your system. Open
Windows Explorer and click Tools / Folder Options / File Types and
delete HTA, SHS and VBSscript. It is very unlikely a normal PC user
would need those file associations turned on.
~~
10. Disable "Automatic check for Windows Explorer updates"
From the IE "Tools" menu click on "Internet Options" then go to
"Advanced" and uncheck the 4th box.

EVERY week back up modified files, defrag the system and update the
definitions and scan the whole system with your favorite anti-viral
program. Run Ad-Aware to fight the spying that a least 100 programs are
known to do. (I do this mainly to save the baud width wasted by the data
and banner ads that are passing back and forth.)"

--

Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>


> how do you turn off system restore and pc health



> > Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ?
> > They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing

> > --

> > Ian P
> > <email invalid due to spam>



> > > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does
> it.
> > > By the way I am running Me

Larr

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by Larr » Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:23:11

That's a good call.  The System Restore in ME is very intrusive on
performance.  I didn't think it was quite that regular, though.

-Larry


> Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ?
> They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing

> --

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>



> > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does
it.
> > By the way I am running Me

Larr

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by Larr » Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:22:13

I can't help with WinME.  I have like 90 minutes of experience with it.
That's all it took for me to know it was time to format again :)

-Larry


> I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does it.
> By the way I am running Me



> > The IRQ's being the same is completely normal under Windows 2000/XP.
This
> > is ACPI in action, and you should leave it alone.

> > Your problem lies elsewhere, and my first guess would be some sort of
> > utility running in the background.

> > AntiVirus ?
> > Norton Utilities?
> > Scanner software?

> > etc...

> > -Larry



> > > I play Nascar 2002.  I have a Geforce 2 video card.  About 3 or 4
> minutes
> > > into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity,
the
> > > sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of
frame
> > > rates.  After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and
I
> > > dont see it again while playing.  The currious thing is that I look in
> > > system information and the video card, network card and sound card are
> all
> > > on IRQ 11.  It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it
> > > shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is
> > > supposed to be a non share slot.  I have moved the network card to
slots
> > 2,
> > > 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11.  The question is.  Is
> > this
> > > normal or could this be causeing the stuttering.

> > > System
> > > Asus a7v133
> > > AMD 1.1
> > > 512 meg
> > > gefore 2 32 meg
> > > network card
> > > sound blaster Live


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