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stupid newbie questions

Bill Bollinge

stupid newbie questions

by Bill Bollinge » Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>Hi

>I've got some (undoubtedly) stupid questions about Nascar 3. The thing is:
I
>suck. So to get better I'd like to know the following things (for
>starters!!!):
>1. Is Nascar 3 all about braking hard and late before a corner or do you
>have to let go of the gas and subtly apply some brakes? Or is this
different
>on every track? Or is it somewhere in between? In other words: how do I
>approach a corner the right way.

It really depends on the track.  There are some tracks (Superspeedways)
where you basically just roll off the gas on onto the gas.  NOTE:  Against
some of the "finer" people in here they believe it is all mash the gas
stuff.  BUT, to be really fast and save the tires you do need to be smooth
on entry and exit of a turn.  The problem with the current physics engine is
it is tougher to get feedback.  Get a good set of headphones and start using
your ears (Listen for the tires skidding).

What you are describing is a looser car.  If the car is good after the first
few laps and not real good early in a run.  An easy fix that wouldn't kill
the overall balance of the car would be to add 1 PSI to the LR tire or
reduce the LF tire PSI by 1.  If it is doing it (Loose) consistent thru the
race, you would want to tighten the car up.  With the N3 engine, the easiest
fix would be to reduce the rear bar by 1 click, or increase the front bar by
1 click.

There are a lot out there.  Begin to understand the basics of setting up an
oval car and you will have a TON of fun.  OR if you are more into just
racing vs. setups find a good Fixed setup league and have fun.  I am just
hoping they get the multiplayer stuff fixed.

Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard  (1999 NROS Pro Division Finalist)

Larr

stupid newbie questions

by Larr » Tue, 28 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Cool.  N3 driving questions :)

It depends on the track and the corner.  Some tracks favor exit speed.  Some
favor entry speed.  Some will bite you no matter what you do (Darlington)
:)

The best thing to do is try it both ways at the track.  No one said this was
easy :)  Get yourself a decent setup going, and then run each track at least
10 laps, and record your times carefully.  You can hit 'O' on the keyboard
and the spotter will call out your lap times.  I find this very helpful when
determining what way is better.

Then, change your style, but leave the setup the same.  Don't change two
things at once.  Once you have determined how the track likes to be driven,
tune your setup to favor that style.

Also, keep tires in mind.  It doesn't help to be a second faster than
everyone else if you have to pit 10 laps before they do.

And, finally, remember this.  Sometimes slow=fast.  I was pushing _way_ too
hard at Bristol, and didn't understand why I was getting my ass kicked.
Then, I actually _slowed_ down earlier for the corners, and I picked up 3mph
on my lap times!

Most ACE setups have too much wheel lock in them.  It isn't as bad as N2
(which seemed to favor WAY too much wheel lock), but it is still kind of
sensitive at some tracks.  Try notching it down a bit.

It also sounds like you do not favor a loose race car.  Move the wedge 5
pounds at a time to the right front (put in wedge) until the ass-end quits
coming around on you.

You are using a wheel, right?  If you are using a joystick or keyboard, get
a wheel.  I guarantee you your lap times will improve.  There are, of
course, some joystick jockeys that will disagree witih this, but for most
people that's the way it is.

Nothing beats practice, practice, practice!  On TEN, as long as I'm not
wrecked out, I can finish in the top 5 nearly every race at Dega, and I can
win my fair share.  However, I had some 10000 laps at Dega on TEN :)  I have
a setup for every 5 deg temp change.  It took me 2 years to get there :)

Hope this helps!

-Larry

Greg Cisk

stupid newbie questions

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 28 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>1. Is Nascar 3 all about braking hard and late before a corner or do you
>have to let go of the gas and subtly apply some brakes? Or is this
different
>on every track? Or is it somewhere in between? In other words: how do I
>approach a corner the right way.

For the tracks that have braking, you need to find the rythem for
racing. That is how to apply the brakes properly or even downshifting
one gear.

to

So don't turn so much. Try adjusting to what the car is showing you. You
make it sound like you blindly drive the same way regardless of the reaction
of the car. An online race with a track full of people driving this way
would
be quite a joke :-)

Probably because the tires are heating up and they are getting some
traction.

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Jan Koh

stupid newbie questions

by Jan Koh » Tue, 28 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>1. Is Nascar 3 all about braking hard and late before a corner or do you
>have to let go of the gas and subtly apply some brakes? Or is this
different
>on every track? Or is it somewhere in between? In other words: how do I
>approach a corner the right way.

No, it's definitely NOT hard and late braking...you need to be very, very
smooth
in your entry and exit to corners.  If you look at all the really good
NACSAR drivers,
they are VERY smooth...Mark Martin, Rusty,Jeff, Terry, Dale, ect., ect...

Your first few laps should be rather hair-raising...the tires are not warm
yet,
they definitely won't have the adhesion that they will have after they warm
up...

Try out THE site for sim racing...  http://www.theuspits.com

Not that I'm biased or anything...  ;]

Cheers!


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Computer Systems Programmer
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Hurlburt Field, FL

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