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F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

Kelvin Clin

F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

by Kelvin Clin » Fri, 04 May 2001 21:43:05

Hi all.

These are the Drivers Championship positions if you use the points system
from my Fantasy League site.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Name                            Fantasy    FIA
1 David Coultard            1,250       28
2 Michael Schumacher    1,210       36
3 Jarno Trulli                   820          7
4 Nick Heidfeld               800         8
5 Rubens Barrichello       790         14

The points system rewards the drivers that are constant and those who finish
most reliable.

Here's the Constructors championship by the Fantasy Points System.

Team         Fantasy    FIA
1 Ferrari       1,140       50
2 McLaren   1,005       32
3 Jordan       745          13

The points system rewards the teams that are constant and those who finish
most reliable.

Check out the site for more Fantasy Results and stats.
You can also go and build your own team and gain Fantasy points of your own.

The site is http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Regards
Kevin Paynter
KingAqua

Scott Boha

F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

by Scott Boha » Fri, 04 May 2001 22:49:07


That's not the idea of F1 though, by definition the idea is to try and
finish in the top 6 !!  You're not going to do that by just being reliable,
someone who finishes 1st twice in a season will beat someone who finishes
7th every race.  It's much better to be fast occasionly than medium-paced
all the time.

David Ewin

F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

by David Ewin » Sat, 05 May 2001 02:10:00


> These are the Drivers Championship positions if you use the points system
> from my Fantasy League site.
> http://www.TheOneFantasy.com

Sorry, Kelvin, but I think systems (like NASCAR) that don't place a premium on
winning, are missing something important.  There should be a big difference
between winning and coming in 2nd. Rewarding consistent mediocrity isn't in the
spirit of competition.

Only rewarding six places is arguably too restrictive, because it doesn't
differentiate between the mid pack runners, however.  But I don't see that
changing any time soon because of tradition.

Dave Ewing

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Jason

F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

by Jason » Sat, 05 May 2001 09:53:30

My 2 cents on the subject:

A guy can get pole and be quick with a clear track.. god on ya (Damon Hill
comes to mind). But if a guy can be consistent, quite often he will inch up
the ranks and make a run for it (Barichello comes to mind in recent
happenings).

The whole argument is a double edged sword, but any real racer will tell you
'you have to cross the finish line to score any points... regardless of
position in the points allocations...'

The trick is to be consistently fast... then you score more points, at a
higher return.

Bottom line:

As even Ferrari will tell you: 'You have to be fast... but you must also be
consistent'. I think a focus on consistency is a nice alternative IMO. Throw
in fast, and consistent... you are championship material.

I wouldn't say that either point system is 'wrong', just that a fine balance
for achievement (long and short term) should be rewarded accordingly.

Cheers,

Schumi



> > These are the Drivers Championship positions if you use the points
system
> > from my Fantasy League site.
> > http://www.TheOneFantasy.com

> Sorry, Kelvin, but I think systems (like NASCAR) that don't place a
premium on
> winning, are missing something important.  There should be a big
difference
> between winning and coming in 2nd. Rewarding consistent mediocrity isn't
in the
> spirit of competition.

> Only rewarding six places is arguably too restrictive, because it doesn't
> differentiate between the mid pack runners, however.  But I don't see that
> changing any time soon because of tradition.

> Dave Ewing

> --
> *****************************************************
> David A. Ewing

> *****************************************************

Kelvin Clin

F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

by Kelvin Clin » Sat, 05 May 2001 23:12:55




> > Hi all.

> > These are the Drivers Championship positions if you use the points
system
> > from my Fantasy League site.
> > http://www.TheOneFantasy.com

> > Name                            Fantasy    FIA
> > 1 David Coultard            1,250       28
> > 2 Michael Schumacher    1,210       36
> > 3 Jarno Trulli                   820          7
> > 4 Nick Heidfeld               800         8
> > 5 Rubens Barrichello       790         14

> > The points system rewards the drivers that are constant and those who
> finish
> > most reliable.

> That's not the idea of F1 though, by definition the idea is to try and
> finish in the top 6 !!  You're not going to do that by just being

reliable,

I agree with that but the point I'm trying to make is that by introducing a
points system that lets all the drivers and teams gain points no matter
where they finish, makes for more entertaining racing.  The reason for that
is that the teams won't just throw the towel in when something goes wrong
with the car.  Like with Rubins the past weekend.

Being reliable won't make you a winner, but it will help you to be noticed
by the rest of the world when they look at the score boards.  This will help
teams such as Arrows and Minardi to obtain better and more sponsorship
money.  This in turn will make them a better team and thus the racing will
be closer and more entertaining.

Eldre

F1 Chamionship by Fantasy Points System

by Eldre » Thu, 10 May 2001 00:27:57



>My 2 cents on the subject:

>A guy can get pole and be quick with a clear track.. god on ya (Damon Hill
>comes to mind). But if a guy can be consistent, quite often he will inch up
>the ranks and make a run for it (Barichello comes to mind in recent
>happenings).

>The whole argument is a double edged sword, but any real racer will tell you
>'you have to cross the finish line to score any points... regardless of
>position in the points allocations...'

>The trick is to be consistently fast... then you score more points, at a
>higher return.

>Bottom line:

>As even Ferrari will tell you: 'You have to be fast... but you must also be
>consistent'. I think a focus on consistency is a nice alternative IMO. Throw
>in fast, and consistent... you are championship material.

>I wouldn't say that either point system is 'wrong', just that a fine balance
>for achievement (long and short term) should be rewarded accordingly.

It's a lot easier to be consistent than fast.  In one of my GPL leagues, I
usually run 11-14th.  In another, I'm 7-10th.  The spots I gain are because
people crash, or disco.  It's not like I'm actually *competing* for the spot,
though.  If you can stay on the track, you can be consistent.  Winning(or even
scoring points) is TOTALLY different, unfortunately...

Eldred
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with experience...
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