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ATT: ALL. GP3-----> "DirectX not installed" error!!!!! URGENT "Expert" Help Wanted. Please read inside. TIA. Dx Guru's only????

BRH

ATT: ALL. GP3-----> "DirectX not installed" error!!!!! URGENT "Expert" Help Wanted. Please read inside. TIA. Dx Guru's only????

by BRH » Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:30:49

This is just a complete shot in the dark, as I am no DirectX expert, and
you appear to have tried just about everything that I would have.  You may
have tried this suggestion, as well, but you didn't mention it.

You said that the game runs fine on a  friend's system with DX 8.0a.  Was
that using _your_ GP3 CD, or his?  It _could_ be that your CD is
scratched/damaged in some way?  Perhaps installing from his CD would work?

Like I said, just a shot in the dark.  I agree that your hardware changes
should not have caused this problem.

Good Luck....


> Hi Group,

> Every time I run the game I get this exact error message, "DirectX not
> installed" no more, no less. The problem is, DirectX IS installed. The
> game "used" to work 100% the last time I played it (approx 4-5 months
> ago). Virtually NO Hardware, (except Wacom Graphire Tablet), or OS
> changes. System is still as it was when the game ran 100%!!!!!!! Used
> to use Dx 7a back then and I now use Dx 8a. Have tried the game on a
> friends PC and the problem is NOT Dx 8a as it runs 100% on that PC.
> Ok, here is the substantial list of "everything" I have tried to date!
> (3 Days on this with NO success!!!). Guess I am hoping that someone
> had "exactly" the same problem and managed to get the game running
> again. Or, I am hoping that someone has an "in depth" understanding of
> how the game checks for DirectX and possibly why it returns with the
> "DirectX not installed" error. Please note I am NOT a newbie and
> rarely if ever ask for Hardware/software help from anywhere so,
> answers like, "have you re-booted after installing DirectX" are NOT
> going to be too helpful I'm afraid.I build my own PC's, owned a PC for
> approx 8 Years, NET for approx 6 years Blah, Blah! (Don't worry about
> getting technical). Can hold my own in the Windows OS/Registry etc.
> Only thing I am NOT, is a programmer of ANY kind! Ok, Here's what I've
> tried so far.

> (Just in case you're all wondering <G> yes it is store bought and MY
> property!!!!!!!!)

> Un installed DirectX with a prog called DirectX Buster. (This one
> actually does a good job and removes virtually everything).

> Tried DirectX 7, 7a, 8 and back to 8a Keep in mind Dx7 and 7a "were"
> working 100% with the game. No more. Error as above, Dx not.........

> Even tried Dx 6, 6.1(GP3 not meant to work with this I know!!)! Same.
> Error as above, Dx not...........

> Gone back to the "very same" Graphic card driver I used at the time
> game ran ok. Tried out "EVERY" single graphics card driver I have
> (Tons of 'em!), from the "original" off the CD to the last one I
> downloaded from the "net" just recently. Same error as above, DX
> not...........

> Tried the "three fingered salute" (Ctr+Alt+Del) Heh! and removed
> "EVERYTHING" except explorer and systray which are of course needed.
> No Dice......

> Tried using the F1Gstate.sav, cards.txt, F1system.txt and gconfig.txt
> files from my friends DX 8a "WORKING" system, (we have different GFX
> cards but, I have edited in/out the changes needed and I still get the
> now famous "DirectX not installed" error! Nothing works!

> Re-installed my OS--->Win98 First Edition. (Non format Re-install
> which might actually "cure" the problem but, with a 30GB drive with
> approx 12GB of kit on it I would rather find out what is wrong and
> "cure" it that way!!

> My own opinion after using a registry monitor and "looking" at what's
> happening is that it is probably a software only problem. The game
> checks the registry for the presence of "minimum" DirectX 7.0 and
> reports back that it is NOT installed. How can this be when it used to
> work 100% before!

> Here are the (important) parts of my system that "might/would" affect
> the running of games/software. Please note that ALL other games are
> running 100%, and yes, they ALL require the installation of DirectX to
> run!!!!!!!!!

> PC SPEC as follows..........


> Diamond Stealth 3 S540 32Mb Savage 4 Pro GFX Card (Yeah I know,
> Powerful card and cr*p drivers). But it has always worked before!
> Sound Blaster PCI 128
> Same Mainboard as before, (MSI) 63** Pro
> 128 Mb PC 100 RAM
> Gravis Xterminator Digital game pad
> Blah, blah, blah..........

> Ok, this is what HAS been added or changed and, I don't see how any of
> this could cause this error!

> Wacom Graphire Tablet has been added since. (Works with ALL D3D/Dx
> Games 100%). NO KNOWN sid effects!

> 30 GB Hard Disk Drive

> GFX card "was" O'Clocked but is now running at the recommended 125 MHz
> for Savage 4 and it's 32 Mb on board Memory.

> Lexmark Z52 Printer on USB port has been added.

> Fuji Finepix Digital Camera with it's USB connector permanently
> attached to USB port 2.

> AS far as I know that's the lot. Would you agree that NONE of the
> above changes should cause this VERY strange error?

> One point of interest. After using DX buster to "remove" Dx..... If
> you then re-boot with NO DirectX installed, and try running the game,
> it tells you in the error box DDRAW.DLL not found!!!!!! In other words
> it HAS looked for the presence of DirectX, has obviously not been able
> to find it and throws out a perfectly reasonable error! So you think,
> ok, I'll give it DirectX back (Any version 7, 7a, 8 or 8a tried 'em
> all) and lo and behold, run the game and...........Yep, you guessed it
> dude's....."DirectX is not installed" all over again!!!!!! So, maybe
> you can now see why I am making this "last ditch" attempt for
> "EXPERT/GURU" type help!

> Sorry this has been so long but I had to make sure everyone is "aware"
> of the MANY sensible/obvious? things I have already tried. I am
> certainly NOT trying to be rude when I say this and don't want to
> upset anyone but please don't suggest what I have already tried such
> as, "Have you re-booted after installing Dx (Duh?) and similar. It's
> all been done and more folks. If you have managed to get though to
> here, Phew (you need a medal!) thanks for reading and I hope a TRUE
> EXPERT with DirectX can help me get this game running again! (Can't
> wait to scream around Monaco with that gleaming red Ferrari again).

> Thank you for your kind patience and help,

> (Answers/help to the Group please. The E-mail address is obviously
> Bullsh*t)

> MAD MAX

--
Bert
MAD MA

ATT: ALL. GP3-----> "DirectX not installed" error!!!!! URGENT "Expert" Help Wanted. Please read inside. TIA. Dx Guru's only????

by MAD MA » Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:31:46

Hi BRH,
The same CD was tested ok in my friends PC. I possibly should have said that
I have tried with the "no-CD" patch (Used to work no probs). I have also
tried installing the official??? GP3 patch V1.13 and this produces the
"same" error.
Thanks for trying anyhow,

MAD MAX


> This is just a complete shot in the dark, as I am no DirectX expert, and
> you appear to have tried just about everything that I would have.  You may
> have tried this suggestion, as well, but you didn't mention it.

> You said that the game runs fine on a  friend's system with DX 8.0a.  Was
> that using _your_ GP3 CD, or his?  It _could_ be that your CD is
> scratched/damaged in some way?  Perhaps installing from his CD would work?

> Like I said, just a shot in the dark.  I agree that your hardware changes
> should not have caused this problem.

> Good Luck....


> > Hi Group,

> > Every time I run the game I get this exact error message, "DirectX not
> > installed" no more, no less. The problem is, DirectX IS installed. The
> > game "used" to work 100% the last time I played it (approx 4-5 months
> > ago). Virtually NO Hardware, (except Wacom Graphire Tablet), or OS
> > changes. System is still as it was when the game ran 100%!!!!!!! Used
> > to use Dx 7a back then and I now use Dx 8a. Have tried the game on a
> > friends PC and the problem is NOT Dx 8a as it runs 100% on that PC.
> > Ok, here is the substantial list of "everything" I have tried to date!
> > (3 Days on this with NO success!!!). Guess I am hoping that someone
> > had "exactly" the same problem and managed to get the game running
> > again. Or, I am hoping that someone has an "in depth" understanding of
> > how the game checks for DirectX and possibly why it returns with the
> > "DirectX not installed" error. Please note I am NOT a newbie and
> > rarely if ever ask for Hardware/software help from anywhere so,
> > answers like, "have you re-booted after installing DirectX" are NOT
> > going to be too helpful I'm afraid.I build my own PC's, owned a PC for
> > approx 8 Years, NET for approx 6 years Blah, Blah! (Don't worry about
> > getting technical). Can hold my own in the Windows OS/Registry etc.
> > Only thing I am NOT, is a programmer of ANY kind! Ok, Here's what I've
> > tried so far.

> > (Just in case you're all wondering <G> yes it is store bought and MY
> > property!!!!!!!!)

> > Un installed DirectX with a prog called DirectX Buster. (This one
> > actually does a good job and removes virtually everything).

> > Tried DirectX 7, 7a, 8 and back to 8a Keep in mind Dx7 and 7a "were"
> > working 100% with the game. No more. Error as above, Dx not.........

> > Even tried Dx 6, 6.1(GP3 not meant to work with this I know!!)! Same.
> > Error as above, Dx not...........

> > Gone back to the "very same" Graphic card driver I used at the time
> > game ran ok. Tried out "EVERY" single graphics card driver I have
> > (Tons of 'em!), from the "original" off the CD to the last one I
> > downloaded from the "net" just recently. Same error as above, DX
> > not...........

> > Tried the "three fingered salute" (Ctr+Alt+Del) Heh! and removed
> > "EVERYTHING" except explorer and systray which are of course needed.
> > No Dice......

> > Tried using the F1Gstate.sav, cards.txt, F1system.txt and gconfig.txt
> > files from my friends DX 8a "WORKING" system, (we have different GFX
> > cards but, I have edited in/out the changes needed and I still get the
> > now famous "DirectX not installed" error! Nothing works!

> > Re-installed my OS--->Win98 First Edition. (Non format Re-install
> > which might actually "cure" the problem but, with a 30GB drive with
> > approx 12GB of kit on it I would rather find out what is wrong and
> > "cure" it that way!!

> > My own opinion after using a registry monitor and "looking" at what's
> > happening is that it is probably a software only problem. The game
> > checks the registry for the presence of "minimum" DirectX 7.0 and
> > reports back that it is NOT installed. How can this be when it used to
> > work 100% before!

> > Here are the (important) parts of my system that "might/would" affect
> > the running of games/software. Please note that ALL other games are
> > running 100%, and yes, they ALL require the installation of DirectX to
> > run!!!!!!!!!

> > PC SPEC as follows..........


> > Diamond Stealth 3 S540 32Mb Savage 4 Pro GFX Card (Yeah I know,
> > Powerful card and cr*p drivers). But it has always worked before!
> > Sound Blaster PCI 128
> > Same Mainboard as before, (MSI) 63** Pro
> > 128 Mb PC 100 RAM
> > Gravis Xterminator Digital game pad
> > Blah, blah, blah..........

> > Ok, this is what HAS been added or changed and, I don't see how any of
> > this could cause this error!

> > Wacom Graphire Tablet has been added since. (Works with ALL D3D/Dx
> > Games 100%). NO KNOWN sid effects!

> > 30 GB Hard Disk Drive

> > GFX card "was" O'Clocked but is now running at the recommended 125 MHz
> > for Savage 4 and it's 32 Mb on board Memory.

> > Lexmark Z52 Printer on USB port has been added.

> > Fuji Finepix Digital Camera with it's USB connector permanently
> > attached to USB port 2.

> > AS far as I know that's the lot. Would you agree that NONE of the
> > above changes should cause this VERY strange error?

> > One point of interest. After using DX buster to "remove" Dx..... If
> > you then re-boot with NO DirectX installed, and try running the game,
> > it tells you in the error box DDRAW.DLL not found!!!!!! In other words
> > it HAS looked for the presence of DirectX, has obviously not been able
> > to find it and throws out a perfectly reasonable error! So you think,
> > ok, I'll give it DirectX back (Any version 7, 7a, 8 or 8a tried 'em
> > all) and lo and behold, run the game and...........Yep, you guessed it
> > dude's....."DirectX is not installed" all over again!!!!!! So, maybe
> > you can now see why I am making this "last ditch" attempt for
> > "EXPERT/GURU" type help!

> > Sorry this has been so long but I had to make sure everyone is "aware"
> > of the MANY sensible/obvious? things I have already tried. I am
> > certainly NOT trying to be rude when I say this and don't want to
> > upset anyone but please don't suggest what I have already tried such
> > as, "Have you re-booted after installing Dx (Duh?) and similar. It's
> > all been done and more folks. If you have managed to get though to
> > here, Phew (you need a medal!) thanks for reading and I hope a TRUE
> > EXPERT with DirectX can help me get this game running again! (Can't
> > wait to scream around Monaco with that gleaming red Ferrari again).

> > Thank you for your kind patience and help,

> > (Answers/help to the Group please. The E-mail address is obviously
> > Bullsh*t)

> > MAD MAX

> --
> Bert


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