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Funny or sad?

Mac

Funny or sad?

by Mac » Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:59:43

Outstanding line from tonight's Simpsons (UK)

Homer to dying Grim Reaper: Aw Death, we're gonna miss you so much. You made
NASCAR racing exciting!

Gerry Aitken

Funny or sad?

by Gerry Aitken » Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:46:25


> Outstanding line from tonight's Simpsons (UK)

> Homer to dying Grim Reaper: Aw Death, we're gonna miss you so much. You made
> NASCAR racing exciting!

Very black humour.

--

Gerry Aitken?

...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer. - Book of Cyril, chapter
6, verse 16

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Jon

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by Jon » Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:02:46

I caught that one too.

It's like a lot of things in the simpsons, very 'clever'. I doubt anyone
would dispute that a lot of people watch NASCAR purely for spectacular solo
crashes and multi-car wreck mayhem, which by-n-large is done without anyone
even recieving more than minor injuries. However as we know all to well,
there are safety concerns and the drivers are putting their lives on the
line every week.

Any motorsport involves that element, as does boxing, skiing, cycling and
plenty of other sports, and i wouldn't suggest any average american would
state the possibility of seeing a fatality as an extra element of the
e***ment. I think they're also calling into question the rather lacklustre
(slow to none existant) actions of NASCAR to make the sport safer and
listening to what the drivers say, almost as if they believe most people
think like Homer J.

On a separate note, it's also the Nascar episode at Springfield Speedway
where Maude Flanders dies getting knocked off the back of a grandstand... I
wonder how that came about as an idea.

Laters
Jon



> Outstanding line from tonight's Simpsons (UK)

> Homer to dying Grim Reaper: Aw Death, we're gonna miss you so much. You
made
> NASCAR racing exciting!

Very black humour.

--

Gerry Aitken?

...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer. - Book of Cyril, chapter
6, verse 16

This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by a fish called Colin.

Mac

Funny or sad?

by Mac » Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:39:40


> I caught that one too.

> It's like a lot of things in the simpsons, very 'clever'. I doubt anyone
> would dispute that a lot of people watch NASCAR purely for spectacular
solo
> crashes and multi-car wreck mayhem, which by-n-large is done without
anyone
> even recieving more than minor injuries. However as we know all to well,
> there are safety concerns and the drivers are putting their lives on the
> line every week.

> Any motorsport involves that element, as does boxing, skiing, cycling and
> plenty of other sports, and i wouldn't suggest any average american would
> state the possibility of seeing a fatality as an extra element of the
> e***ment. I think they're also calling into question the rather
lacklustre
> (slow to none existant) actions of NASCAR to make the sport safer and
> listening to what the drivers say, almost as if they believe most people
> think like Homer J.

> On a separate note, it's also the Nascar episode at Springfield Speedway
> where Maude Flanders dies getting knocked off the back of a grandstand...
I
> wonder how that came about as an idea.

> Laters
> Jon




> > Outstanding line from tonight's Simpsons (UK)

> > Homer to dying Grim Reaper: Aw Death, we're gonna miss you so much. You
> made
> > NASCAR racing exciting!

> Very black humour.

> --

> Gerry Aitken?

> ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer. - Book of Cyril, chapter
> 6, verse 16

> This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by a fish called Colin.

I thought I might get flamed for posting the quote because motorsport fans
would be deeply offended by the idea that death in a race can ever be a
source of humour, and would think I endorsed the Groening view that
motorsport was only watched to see carnage. On the contrary, as a very young
man I cried when I saw the footage of Gilles Villeneuve dying a terrible
death.

At the risk of attracting flames, I think that safety in NASCAR CART and IRL
is a disgrace. American drivers die at  a frightening rate and yet nobody
does anything about it. Part of the problem is that an oval track can't
suddenly sprout run off areas. But can't the cars be stronger? Or something.
OK I don't know a lot about it, and I'm 4000 miles away in Britain, but what
do people around here think?

btw I admit that using methanol was a great step forward before fuel tanks
became more or less indestructible. Can't fault you guys on that one.

John DiFoo

Funny or sad?

by John DiFoo » Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:02:06


>At the risk of attracting flames, I think that safety in NASCAR CART and IRL
>is a disgrace. American drivers die at  a frightening rate and yet nobody
>does anything about it. Part of the problem is that an oval track can't
>suddenly sprout run off areas. But can't the cars be stronger? Or something.
>OK I don't know a lot about it, and I'm 4000 miles away in Britain, but what
>do people around here think?

>btw I admit that using methanol was a great step forward before fuel tanks
>became more or less indestructible. Can't fault you guys on that one.

Not a flame, but you will note that softer walls and HANS devices are
recent additions to the various North American oval series.  Plus
have we had a Nextel Cup or Busch fatality since the HANs were
implemented?

Stock car racing has never been safer.  IRL on the other hand-
I think the Renna incident may be a scary omen, one which the
IRL seems to be ignoring...

         John DiFool

Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:59:23

Sure, the cars can be made stronger, but then they transfer all the engergy
of the impact to the driver. The car is supposed to buckle and disintegrate
in order to take the brunt of the impact for the driver instead of passing
it along to him (actually to the "survival cell", which the driver
occupies).

I think the safety record is pretty good, considering the speeds and the
intensity of competition involved. The drivers know the risks when they
start the race or go for a pass.

Jan.
=---

Rich

Funny or sad?

by Rich » Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:51:45

You do everything in your power to drive a car safely, but if you're in the
wrong place at the wrong time, not much will help you.
To quit driving however, is not really an option....


Larr

Funny or sad?

by Larr » Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:46:37

The question I would have is.... What more can the IRL really do ?

They are basically driving torpedo's with wheel's attached.  There isn't
much room for much of a protection cage.

Short of installing Airbags everywhere, and having the car turn into a
Canole in an accident, I don't see what else they can do.

Soft walls would not have helped in either of the recent IRL incidents.

-Larry



> >At the risk of attracting flames, I think that safety in NASCAR CART and
IRL
> >is a disgrace. American drivers die at  a frightening rate and yet nobody
> >does anything about it. Part of the problem is that an oval track can't
> >suddenly sprout run off areas. But can't the cars be stronger? Or
something.
> >OK I don't know a lot about it, and I'm 4000 miles away in Britain, but
what
> >do people around here think?

> >btw I admit that using methanol was a great step forward before fuel
tanks
> >became more or less indestructible. Can't fault you guys on that one.

> Not a flame, but you will note that softer walls and HANS devices are
> recent additions to the various North American oval series.  Plus
> have we had a Nextel Cup or Busch fatality since the HANs were
> implemented?

> Stock car racing has never been safer.  IRL on the other hand-
> I think the Renna incident may be a scary omen, one which the
> IRL seems to be ignoring...

>          John DiFool

John DiFoo

Funny or sad?

by John DiFoo » Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:13:17


>The question I would have is.... What more can the IRL really do ?

>They are basically driving torpedo's with wheel's attached.  There isn't
>much room for much of a protection cage.

>Short of installing Airbags everywhere, and having the car turn into a
>Canole in an accident, I don't see what else they can do.

>Soft walls would not have helped in either of the recent IRL incidents.

>-Larry

Well, I have seen suggestions that they tone down the aero package
to reduce downforce, or even (horrors!) reduce horsepower, up to
and including restrictor plates.  >shrug<

          John D

don hodgdo

Funny or sad?

by don hodgdo » Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:43:38

But they already have that. It's called the Infinity Pro Series.

don


Dave Henri

Funny or sad?

by Dave Henri » Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:12:33



  And Jason Priestly can attest that hitting the wall wrong with a 400hp
car is not much different than hitting the wall with a 700hp racer.

dave henrie

Byron John Forbe

Funny or sad?

by Byron John Forbe » Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:27:35

  Got a spontaneous laugh from me! :)

............. still giggling.



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