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new system next week...what do I need to backup?

Dave Henri

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Dave Henri » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:18:21

  I'm hoping to assemble a new 1ghz Tbird by next week.  What do I need to
get back up and running?  Can I fdisk the hd and use the win98cd to
re-install?
or do I need the emergency disk?
lwff needs a new loader right?
anything else I'm missing?

--
dave henrie
Free the ICR2 source code!

GMpartsdud

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by GMpartsdud » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:46:37

make sure the Win98 cd is the full version, and not the upgrade, or it will
stick a finger in you until you swap in a win95 disc or something. I got
caught with my pants down on that one once. Thankfully a copy of win95 was
just a quick ride down the street :)
Jason Mond

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Jason Mond » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:50:38


>   I'm hoping to assemble a new 1ghz Tbird by next week.  What do I need to
> get back up and running?  Can I fdisk the hd and use the win98cd to
> re-install?

If your system supports bootable CD-ROMs this will work.

You should make one or two just to be safe.

Save your garage setup files for GPL and N4 for sure!

If you can ZIP you important, highly customized sim directories and save
them to HD or another PC.  You will save alot of time getting them up on
your new PC.  For example, I would ZIP GPL.  Back it up to wherever.  On
the new PC, install GPL to the same folder.  Now just extract your
GPL.ZIP file over top of the fresh installation.  Voila, your back on
the track.

If you have special drivers like network cards, you may want to make an
installation floppy of them.  Assuming you have cable or ADSL.

Make sure you remember you're email passwords.  Some people use the
auto-save password option and forget them.

--
Jason Monds
http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims)
http://www.racersdomain.com  - Race hosting.
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Jan Verschuere

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:11:25

Back-up your internet favourites/bookmarks, it sucks to lose them.

If you use Outlook Express, export and back-up your adress book and the
C:\Windows\Application Data\Identities folder so you import everything back
in after the rebuild.

Back-up the data files of any online banking software you use, time logging
software, any office documents. Basically any user created or added
document.

Back-up your setups/savegames/mods and patches relating to games.

That's about it I think... as a minimum ;-)

BTW: unless you want to repartition the drive there's no need Fdisk it. Use
"format c: /q/u" (Unconditional Quickformat) to quickly erase your bootable
partition.

Jan.
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Jeff Jone

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Jeff Jone » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:27:41


Here's an excellent resource for backing up OE5:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe5/

Dog-Le

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Dog-Le » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:27:10

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Not all Win98CD's are bootable...

-Larry



> >   I'm hoping to assemble a new 1ghz Tbird by next week.  What do I need
to
> > get back up and running?  Can I fdisk the hd and use the win98cd to
> > re-install?

> If your system supports bootable CD-ROMs this will work.

> > or do I need the emergency disk?

> You should make one or two just to be safe.

> > anything else I'm missing?

> Save your garage setup files for GPL and N4 for sure!

> If you can ZIP you important, highly customized sim directories and save
> them to HD or another PC.  You will save alot of time getting them up on
> your new PC.  For example, I would ZIP GPL.  Back it up to wherever.  On
> the new PC, install GPL to the same folder.  Now just extract your
> GPL.ZIP file over top of the fresh installation.  Voila, your back on
> the track.

> If you have special drivers like network cards, you may want to make an
> installation floppy of them.  Assuming you have cable or ADSL.

> Make sure you remember you're email passwords.  Some people use the
> auto-save password option and forget them.

> > --
> > dave henrie
> > Free the ICR2 source code!

> --
> Jason Monds
> http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims)
> http://www.racersdomain.com  - Race hosting.
> (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

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Dog-Le

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Dog-Le » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:35:05

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Here's what I do:

1.  Back up anything important.

2.  Boot from a Windows 98 Emergency Disk.

3.  Format the drive.

4.  Create a directory called c:\windows\options\cabs

5.  Inside the Options Folder, create more directories for the following,
and copy the appropriate files into them:
    a. Video Drivers
    b. Sound Drivers
    c. Network Drivers
    d. Controller Drivers
    e. ETC... for any other drivers that are typically needed to get a
green-board in the device manager.

5.  Copy the contents of the \Win98 directory on the CD to the above
directory.

6.  Launch the setup program from the folder in the options directory.

NOTE - At this point, because you have already created the Windows
directory, Windows will not automatically select "c:\windows" as the install
directory.  It will use c:\windows.000.  Select the option to choose your
own directory, and set it back to c:\windows.  It will complain, but the
complaint won't apply.  You'll understand when you see it.

After Windows is installed:

1.  Install drivers from the above pre-built options directory until the
Device Manager is at a Green-Board status (meaning, no errors, no question
marks, no red X's).

2.  Use Windows Update to update what I feel is appropriate.

3.  Clear out the c:\windows\temp directory.

4.  Defrag the drive.

At this time, I use PowerQuests Drive Image to create a "Base" Windows 98
Image.  1 CD will cover this one.

5.  Add Applications as necessary.

6.  Add Games as necessary.

7.  Add Utilities as necessary.

At this time, I use PowerQuests Drive Image to create a "Full Working"
system Image.  This one is usually 5 or 6 CD's.

Copy documents back to the system.

I usually only have to go through the above routine if I change the hardware
configuration, which is exactly what you are doing...

-Larry


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Dog-Le

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Dog-Le » Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:41:31

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Dave,

Oh, one other thing...

You probably noticed that I declined to tell you what to back up.  That's
because this is a dangerous thing to do.  It's YOUR system, and only YOU
know what you can or cannot replace.

I can offer some _MINIMUM_ requirements, though.  The rest is up to you:

1.  My Documents Folder.
2.  C:\windows\favorites (Zip it first, it's a lot easier to manage that
way).
3.  If you are using Outlook (not express), make sure you back up your PST
files.
     Microsoft likes to hide your data from you (bastards - why do they do
that?)
     so you have to be careful to get it all.
4.  If you are using Outlook Express, it's a lot harder.  I recommend one of
the
     utilities available that assists in backing up Outlook Expresses
nonsensical data
     storage scheme.
5.  If you are using Netscape 4.x, your
c:\windows\options\netscape\users\<profile name> directory.
6.  If you are using Netscape 6, it's similar to the above, but Netscape has
started hiding
     your data from you like Microsoft does.  I think it's buried somewhere
in that damned
     Application Data directory structure.
7.  Any save-game data from any of your games.
8.  Any other program's data that does not normally store it in My
Documents.  I guarantee you
     that you will miss AT LEAST one of these, so be careful!
9.  You're on your own from here...

-Larry


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Dave Henri

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Dave Henri » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:09:22

  :)  Thanks Larry and everyone else.  The board and cpu
shipped yesterday...Crucial is out of stock for the memory
I was aiming for.  So we'll see how my generic pc100 stick
holds up til I can get the 256k pc133.
dave
A Thoma

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by A Thoma » Sat, 24 Feb 2001 05:50:20

If you're ***ising your current system , transferring the main
components such HD then before you re-format , try removing some of the
motherboard items from Device Manager before you strip your current system .
I did this a few weeks ago before converting from an AMD K6-2 system to a
Duron system with Abit KT7A mobo & new case . I'm currently running without
any conflicts or glitches at all .

If , however , you'll be using a new HD then your best bet will be to use a
Win 95/98 boot disk to load CD-ROM drivers onto your system so you can
install Windows . If this is the case then I'd recommend that you use your
current HD as secondary HD . I use my old HD as a backup for net downloads
such as the tonnes of MP3s and sim-related downloads I have . It's a comfort
to know that if I have to re-format my C drive then at least I won't have to
spend a month downloading on the net again .

You could also set up a small partition on a new drive for backups .

Andrew


Jan Verschuere

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:39:33

Extremely usefull link. Thanks!!

Jan.
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Dave Henri

new system next week...what do I need to backup?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:11:46

  I can't get to that site.  every time  I go there, I get a couple of error
boxes and the browser shuts down.  (kinda like the behaivor I had when I got
nailed by a virus.)  My new shiny virus checker says no problems here so I
may be outa luck there.
dave henrie


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