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A depressing thought

robswindell

A depressing thought

by robswindell » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

This is it - forever. No one, ever again will produce such racing cars
that were to be seen on the worlds circuits in the 60's. Even if they
did, they would look out of place, look silly even on today's tracks.

This is it - forever. No one ever again will produce such a great sim as
GPL. It didn't make enough money, it wasn't a success. Even if GP3 is as
good as GP2 was in it's day, I don't think I would stop racing GPL.

I'm going to be playing it, when I'm 40 or 50 :o(

--
Rob Swindells
"Add life to your days, not days to your life."
"The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
"Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
"I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."

Peter 'kayakr' Ashle

A depressing thought

by Peter 'kayakr' Ashle » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

And just think, some day your hardware will no longer be compatible and able
to run it.   You'll have to keep one old machine in the corner with Windows
ME on it.

Speedy Fas

A depressing thought

by Speedy Fas » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 01:11:05 GMT, "Peter 'kayakr' Ashley"


>And just think, some day your hardware will no longer be compatible and able
>to run it.   You'll have to keep one old machine in the corner with Windows
>ME on it.

Windows ME.  Yuck.  No thanks.  I'll stick to Win98.
David L. Co

A depressing thought

by David L. Co » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Flame bait here:  Although GPL will always be the 1st best sim for that
era, you may get a little fun out of driving the historical Porsche's
(1940's to today) in NFS5.  The physics look pretty amazing.  Check out
the post I just made about the new NFS5 QuickTime movies.  You might be
surprised!

--David Cook  



> This is it - forever. No one, ever again will produce such racing cars
> that were to be seen on the worlds circuits in the 60's. Even if they
> did, they would look out of place, look silly even on today's tracks.

> This is it - forever. No one ever again will produce such a great sim as
> GPL. It didn't make enough money, it wasn't a success. Even if GP3 is as
> good as GP2 was in it's day, I don't think I would stop racing GPL.

> I'm going to be playing it, when I'm 40 or 50 :o(

> --
> Rob Swindells
> "Add life to your days, not days to your life."
> "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
> "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
> "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."

Morgan VW

A depressing thought

by Morgan VW » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Just imagine what GPL2 or GPL3 might be like. Or NASCAR Legends 2 (with the GPL
engine)! If it were only as simple as Papy finding a more liberal publisher.
Hell if I know. Very depressing indeed.

--
-----------------------------------
Morgan Vincent Wooten

http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/
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David

A depressing thought

by David » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:12:25 +0000, robswindells


>This is it - forever. No one, ever again will produce such racing cars
>that were to be seen on the worlds circuits in the 60's. Even if they
>did, they would look out of place, look silly even on today's tracks.

>This is it - forever. No one ever again will produce such a great sim as
>GPL. It didn't make enough money, it wasn't a success. Even if GP3 is as
>good as GP2 was in it's day, I don't think I would stop racing GPL.

A glimmer of hope (but only a glimmer) - in the early 80s, everyone
said that the affordable small sportscar market was dead,
unprofitable, and would never come back. The TR7 was used as an awful
warning. Then along came Mazda with the MX5, and now we have the Lotus
Elise. So the situation's not *entirely* hopeless (I almost convinced
myself there...).

You need one brave company that will commit even though it knows it a
previous effort made a loss, and won't sacrifice the gameplay (physics
above all) for "arcadeyness". Having an arcade mode is fine, as long
as it's only a thin veneer (who used Arcade mode on F1RS for more than
a day?). In effect, GPL2 would have to be <grits teeth, screws up face
in pain, forces out the dread words> a "loss leader".

If my numbers come up on the lottery (especially if its a double
rollover!), I hereby promise to put a sizeable chunk of that into GPL2
development. You read it here first!
--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Glenn Andresse

A depressing thought

by Glenn Andresse » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

"Define your life with a corny cliche":-)
robswindell

A depressing thought

by robswindell » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

hehe, me too - I will donate all my earnings to it when I'm a Formula One
driver :)


> On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:12:25 +0000, robswindells

> >This is it - forever. No one, ever again will produce such racing cars
> >that were to be seen on the worlds circuits in the 60's. Even if they
> >did, they would look out of place, look silly even on today's tracks.

> >This is it - forever. No one ever again will produce such a great sim as
> >GPL. It didn't make enough money, it wasn't a success. Even if GP3 is as
> >good as GP2 was in it's day, I don't think I would stop racing GPL.

> A glimmer of hope (but only a glimmer) - in the early 80s, everyone
> said that the affordable small sportscar market was dead,
> unprofitable, and would never come back. The TR7 was used as an awful
> warning. Then along came Mazda with the MX5, and now we have the Lotus
> Elise. So the situation's not *entirely* hopeless (I almost convinced
> myself there...).

> You need one brave company that will commit even though it knows it a
> previous effort made a loss, and won't sacrifice the gameplay (physics
> above all) for "arcadeyness". Having an arcade mode is fine, as long
> as it's only a thin veneer (who used Arcade mode on F1RS for more than
> a day?). In effect, GPL2 would have to be <grits teeth, screws up face
> in pain, forces out the dread words> a "loss leader".

> If my numbers come up on the lottery (especially if its a double
> rollover!), I hereby promise to put a sizeable chunk of that into GPL2
> development. You read it here first!
> --
> David.
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

--
Rob Swindells
"Add life to your days, not days to your life."
"The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
"Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
"I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
Joel Willstei

A depressing thought

by Joel Willstei » Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Rob,

    Well I'm 52, and I'm still playing it.

Joel Willstein

Andre Warrin

A depressing thought

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 17 Feb 2000 04:00:00

The icon I mostly use in W98 is the MS-DOS prompt icon, with the GPL
icon being a close second :)

Andre


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